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Sep. 23 2009 - 2:56 pm | 48 views | 0 recommendations | 9 comments

Exclusive: House sources say ‘very good’ chance Cap and Trade dead

Clyde Middleton and I just concluded a blogger conference call with the House Whip Team. On the call were Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), and Erik Paulsen (R-MN).

The major news from the call was that Cap and Trade is, according to Rep. Jordan, “all but dead in the House.” Rep. Paulsen, a freshman, noted that many of his freshman colleagues on the other side of the aisle were forced by the leadership to vote for the House bill without the opportunity to read it. Once the bill is reconciled in conference committee with the Senate bill and sent back to the House for a final vote, many of them that voted “yes” the first time around will vote “no” now. Many of these Democrats (and Republican Rep. Kirk) got a lot of blowback from constituents over the August recess, an indication that pressure brought to bear on them has had the desired effect.

There was unanimous agreement of the Reps. on the call that it is “very likely” Cap and Trade is dead.

On the health care front, it was confirmed that the Senate closed a loophole in its bill (after Joe Wilson’s outburst) that may have allowed illegals to obtain benefits. The Senate added a citizenship verification provision. However, as of today, none of Democrat House bills has any such verification. One rep. likened the situation to border security; while illegal immigration is against the law, unless you enforce it, people get it. Without a verification provision in the health care bill, illegals could skirt that law as well.

When Clyde asked Rep. Paulsen if he had received a response from Sen. Baucus concerning a September 16, 2009, letter Rep. Paulsen had sent concerning a $40 billion tax on medical device manufacturers, his response was simple: No. Rep. Paulsen went on to discuss his and other representatives from both sides of the aisle have with this tax provision which falls onto not just large companies but small businesses, too.

Audio of the call is here.

We predicted the demise of Cap and Trade here yesterday.  Seems that at least some members of  the GOP agree with that assessment.


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    This is fantastic news! Let’s continue to tell our Senators that JOBS are more important!

    Sign the petition here: http://smurl.name/9g3f

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    Let me get this straight: You and Middleton — two self-described conservative writers — participate in a conference call with Republican lawmakers committed to defeating most Democratic legislation … and we’re supposed to take on faith that these lawmakers who sit in the minority party somehow have insight into reality?

    You may, in fact, be correct. But “conservative bloggers talk to conservative lawmakers who have no power but who say cap-and-trade is dead” would be a better headline.

    Cheers,

    RW

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      Russ, are you trying to rain on my parade? Your guys are in charge and we are out in the wilderness. As you say, they may be wrong, but then again, maybe not. Take it for what it is worth.

      Cheers back at you.

      In response to another comment. See in context »
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        Wait…if I may elaborate on Russ’s point: if the party with which you or other “conservative” bloggers identify is out of power, you don’t have the option of consulting with sources other than those within that party? Your thinking can’t possibly be that narrow, can it? Or can it? That is bizarre. I’m starting to suspect the siege mentality is all in you people’s minds. Free yourselves, for god’s sake.

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    This has the smell of that nonsense Glenn Thrush from Politico got his pathetic ass into when he copy and pasted a modified paragraph sent to him from a scumbag Republican operative.

    I love the headline “Exclusive: House Sources”. You conservatives are the gift that keeps on giving. Well, except when you’re starting Wars because you feel like it.

    Perhaps for your next stirring addition to Trueslant you can skip any actual writing and just have Boehner or Cantor put the piece together for you.

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    On the health care front, it was confirmed that the Senate closed a loophole in its bill (after Joe Wilson’s outburst) that may have allowed illegals to obtain benefits. The Senate added a citizenship verification provision. However, as of today, none of Democrat House bills has any such verification. ”

    I don’t think this is accurate. What Senate finance did pretty much went even further than what was already in the bill, basically barring immigrants from even buying their own insurance in the exchange. It’s pretty explicitly illegal for undocumented to get any subsidies in all versions of the bills. That doesn’t mean they can’t go to hospitals’ ER but that’s how it is now. Unless we’re talking kicking them all out (and some people want that) I think that’s where we are.

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