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	<title>Comments on: The Problem with ETFs</title>
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		<title>By: Odograph.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ETF</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/ryansager/2009/05/28/the-problem-with-etfs/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Odograph.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ETF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think they are often dangerous and misused, but I&#8217;ve seen critiques which missed on why. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/ryansager/2009/05/28/the-problem-with-etfs/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(In case it wasn&#039;t clear, I think that narrow sector ETFs are for gamblers, and the blurring of them with the broadest index funds is a disservice to the latter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(In case it wasn&#8217;t clear, I think that narrow sector ETFs are for gamblers, and the blurring of them with the broadest index funds is a disservice to the latter.)</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/ryansager/2009/05/28/the-problem-with-etfs/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ETFs cut in a different way than you think.  The classic, conservative, index investment is a Total Bond Market Index balanced in proper portion with a Total Stock Market Index.  This was a buy and hold philosophy and that&#039;s important.  More on how ETFs change that below.

This is a slight variation on Bogle&#039;s classic Vanguard SP500 strategy.  How much bonds?  I&#039;ve always thought that &quot;your age in bonds&quot; was solid (a 50 year old is 50% in bods), and later more aggressive measures, like &quot;110 minus your age in stocks&quot; or &quot;120 minus your age in stocks&quot; to be way too risky, build by people with experience only in long bull markets.

Now, ETFs can still be use with those conservative strategies, and for the long term.  In my mind the neuro/behavioral impact of them is that since they are so easy to trade, they are seductive to traders.  They don&#039;t encourage (their marketers certainly don&#039;t encourage) conservative use.

Finally, on diversification outside stocks and bonds ... some insured bank CDs and some real estate seem reasonable, but I think the siren call there is to strange asset classes that haven&#039;t really stood the test of time.  A commodities play (ETF or not) might look good in recent-past data mining, but I think many of them tend toward craziness.

I mean, who can look at a 30-year gold chart and think that they&#039;ll really know when to get in and out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ETFs cut in a different way than you think.  The classic, conservative, index investment is a Total Bond Market Index balanced in proper portion with a Total Stock Market Index.  This was a buy and hold philosophy and that&#8217;s important.  More on how ETFs change that below.</p>
<p>This is a slight variation on Bogle&#8217;s classic Vanguard SP500 strategy.  How much bonds?  I&#8217;ve always thought that &#8220;your age in bonds&#8221; was solid (a 50 year old is 50% in bods), and later more aggressive measures, like &#8220;110 minus your age in stocks&#8221; or &#8220;120 minus your age in stocks&#8221; to be way too risky, build by people with experience only in long bull markets.</p>
<p>Now, ETFs can still be use with those conservative strategies, and for the long term.  In my mind the neuro/behavioral impact of them is that since they are so easy to trade, they are seductive to traders.  They don&#8217;t encourage (their marketers certainly don&#8217;t encourage) conservative use.</p>
<p>Finally, on diversification outside stocks and bonds &#8230; some insured bank CDs and some real estate seem reasonable, but I think the siren call there is to strange asset classes that haven&#8217;t really stood the test of time.  A commodities play (ETF or not) might look good in recent-past data mining, but I think many of them tend toward craziness.</p>
<p>I mean, who can look at a 30-year gold chart and think that they&#8217;ll really know when to get in and out?</p>
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