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		<title>By: evernewecon</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2009/11/21/health-insurance-lobby-behind-mammogram-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>evernewecon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to health reform constitutionality,
if you were to seek legal advice, would 
your attorney consider the following?

(disclaimer: THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE
RUNNING FROM ME TO YOU)

just 4 major insurance carriers, plus a couple
near-giants, controlling the market throughout the country might involve interstate commerce de facto?

offering what looks like coverage but what is carefully designed to then not cover selected slices of &quot;insureds&quot; who won&#039;t enable their making their target medical service ratios by way of freezing policies and use of premium death spirals might possibly consitute racketeering, fraud or otherwise?

Is it really you in one of the health carrier managerial suites, Vito Corleone, making offers we can&#039;t refuse?

I seriously think it&#039;s not reform, but shaft-slight-of-hand reform that actually COULD bring on a depression.

Howard Dean
rachel.msnbc
11/24/2009:
What&#039;s being produced is a prohibition against exclusions but a carte blanche for discriminatory monopolistic pricing (for want of a meaningful public option, if any at all.)  WOULDN&#039;T YOU
THEN IMAGINE THEY&#039;D JACK UP PREMIUMS AS OUTRAGEOUSLY AS POSSIBLE SO AS TO BLAME IT ON THE HONEST REFORMERS?

http://sites.google.com/site/evernewecon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to health reform constitutionality,<br />
if you were to seek legal advice, would<br />
your attorney consider the following?</p>
<p>(disclaimer: THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE<br />
RUNNING FROM ME TO YOU)</p>
<p>just 4 major insurance carriers, plus a couple<br />
near-giants, controlling the market throughout the country might involve interstate commerce de facto?</p>
<p>offering what looks like coverage but what is carefully designed to then not cover selected slices of &#8220;insureds&#8221; who won&#8217;t enable their making their target medical service ratios by way of freezing policies and use of premium death spirals might possibly consitute racketeering, fraud or otherwise?</p>
<p>Is it really you in one of the health carrier managerial suites, Vito Corleone, making offers we can&#8217;t refuse?</p>
<p>I seriously think it&#8217;s not reform, but shaft-slight-of-hand reform that actually COULD bring on a depression.</p>
<p>Howard Dean<br />
rachel.msnbc<br />
11/24/2009:<br />
What&#8217;s being produced is a prohibition against exclusions but a carte blanche for discriminatory monopolistic pricing (for want of a meaningful public option, if any at all.)  WOULDN&#8217;T YOU<br />
THEN IMAGINE THEY&#8217;D JACK UP PREMIUMS AS OUTRAGEOUSLY AS POSSIBLE SO AS TO BLAME IT ON THE HONEST REFORMERS?</p>
<p><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/evernewecon" rel="nofollow">http://sites.google.com/site/evernewecon</a></p>
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		<title>By: andylevinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>andylevinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Rick, Obama and his henchmen and henchwomen are behind it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Rick, Obama and his henchmen and henchwomen are behind it</p>
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		<title>By: fleetlee</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2009/11/21/health-insurance-lobby-behind-mammogram-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator>fleetlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study had a &quot;smell&quot; from the time it was released. My docs were really surprised and suspicious of the conclusions reached. Thanks for digging out the probable cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study had a &#8220;smell&#8221; from the time it was released. My docs were really surprised and suspicious of the conclusions reached. Thanks for digging out the probable cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian In NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian In NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very telling, not a peep out of the creep from Conn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very telling, not a peep out of the creep from Conn.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian In NYC</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2009/11/21/health-insurance-lobby-behind-mammogram-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian In NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick her exact word was &quot;prepared&quot; to vote against moving forward, there is a lot of wiggle room in that.  Also not sure you&#039;ve seen the following yet:



McConnell: Dems have health bill votes, but GOP won’t give up

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/68985-mcconnell-dems-have-votes-to-pass-reform-but-gop-wont-stop-opposing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick her exact word was &#8220;prepared&#8221; to vote against moving forward, there is a lot of wiggle room in that.  Also not sure you&#8217;ve seen the following yet:</p>
<p>McConnell: Dems have health bill votes, but GOP won’t give up</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/68985-mcconnell-dems-have-votes-to-pass-reform-but-gop-wont-stop-opposing" rel="nofollow">http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/68985-mcconnell-dems-have-votes-to-pass-reform-but-gop-wont-stop-opposing</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will go fine tonight - but I continue to be amazed that the vote just to get it to a debate was such a big deal.
I&#039;m not sure which comments Lincoln made that you are finding hopeful for the long run. What I&#039;ve heard is that she made it clear that she would not vote for the Reid bill that contains a public option and she would not vote to stop a filibuster of a bill that contains a public option. What did you hear that is more hopeful from her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will go fine tonight &#8211; but I continue to be amazed that the vote just to get it to a debate was such a big deal.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure which comments Lincoln made that you are finding hopeful for the long run. What I&#8217;ve heard is that she made it clear that she would not vote for the Reid bill that contains a public option and she would not vote to stop a filibuster of a bill that contains a public option. What did you hear that is more hopeful from her?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian In NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian In NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking like a good day Rick, I took great heart in Lincoln&#039;s remarks from the floor, I think she signaled today she won&#039;t oppose cloture on the next round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking like a good day Rick, I took great heart in Lincoln&#8217;s remarks from the floor, I think she signaled today she won&#8217;t oppose cloture on the next round.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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