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		<title>By: True/Slant Anniversary: Some of the best analysis and perspective published in our first year - Michael Roston - Newsbroke - True/Slant</title>
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		<dc:creator>True/Slant Anniversary: Some of the best analysis and perspective published in our first year - Michael Roston - Newsbroke - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Matt has written a lot of great posts for True/Slant. But this one is still my favorite. Looking at all the not-wealthy Americans who defend the rights of banks that are &#8216;too big to fail&#8217; to pillage and loot our economy, he found the perfect analogy &#8211; Russian peasants who were willing to defend the czar and his aristocracy at all costs. Rick Ungar &#8211; The inevitability of a single payer health care [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Matt has written a lot of great posts for True/Slant. But this one is still my favorite. Looking at all the not-wealthy Americans who defend the rights of banks that are &#8216;too big to fail&#8217; to pillage and loot our economy, he found the perfect analogy &#8211; Russian peasants who were willing to defend the czar and his aristocracy at all costs. Rick Ungar &#8211; The inevitability of a single payer health care [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kudos to Rick Ungar: Fights health-reform fear-mongering with reason and fact - Todd Essig - Simu-Nation - True/Slant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kudos to Rick Ungar: Fights health-reform fear-mongering with reason and fact - Todd Essig - Simu-Nation - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found myself thinking, &#8220;hmm, wonder what Rick thinks about this?&#8221; His piece The inevitability of an American single-payer health system, regardless of agreement with his forecast, frames the issues with reason and fact, not fear. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found myself thinking, &#8220;hmm, wonder what Rick thinks about this?&#8221; His piece The inevitability of an American single-payer health system, regardless of agreement with his forecast, frames the issues with reason and fact, not fear. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: remembertheconstitution</title>
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		<dc:creator>remembertheconstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you are a typical liberal!! And with you being a lawyer... that does not surprise me. You people (libs/statists/progressives/whatever you are calling yourselves these days) will spread whatever propaganda you need to to reach your desired- usually unconstitutional- outcome. The ends justify the means, huh? Single-Payer will never happen b/c the American PERSON- not PEOPLE- are underestimated by psuedo-intellilectuals like you! You have the SLANT part down.. now how about the TRUTH about this HealthCare &quot;Power Grab&quot;? You can spin the numbers and the facts anyway that you want/need, but in case you haven&#039;t noticed.. The American Individuals do NOT support this ideology and will have the opportunity to vote these libtards out in November!! POWER TO THE &#039;ME&#039;OPLE!! The libs may be able to force me to participate in this HealthCare &quot;Destruction&quot;, BUT they, along with you and your ilk, cannot force me to care about people who can afford cellphones, cable TV, to play the lottery and smoke cigarettes while on Food Stamps, but somehow cannot afford to buy HEALTH COVERAGE!!!! You are the one with a place in HELL, not Hannity!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you are a typical liberal!! And with you being a lawyer&#8230; that does not surprise me. You people (libs/statists/progressives/whatever you are calling yourselves these days) will spread whatever propaganda you need to to reach your desired- usually unconstitutional- outcome. The ends justify the means, huh? Single-Payer will never happen b/c the American PERSON- not PEOPLE- are underestimated by psuedo-intellilectuals like you! You have the SLANT part down.. now how about the TRUTH about this HealthCare &#8220;Power Grab&#8221;? You can spin the numbers and the facts anyway that you want/need, but in case you haven&#8217;t noticed.. The American Individuals do NOT support this ideology and will have the opportunity to vote these libtards out in November!! POWER TO THE &#8216;ME&#8217;OPLE!! The libs may be able to force me to participate in this HealthCare &#8220;Destruction&#8221;, BUT they, along with you and your ilk, cannot force me to care about people who can afford cellphones, cable TV, to play the lottery and smoke cigarettes while on Food Stamps, but somehow cannot afford to buy HEALTH COVERAGE!!!! You are the one with a place in HELL, not Hannity!!</p>
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		<title>By: alexchumley</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexchumley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone always comes back to pointing the finger at Medicare and Medicaid. While I agree that there is definitely some fraud, waste and inefficiencies that needs to be cleaned up in these programs they are not for profit companies.

I&#039;m 25, I&#039;m 5&#039;10&quot; and weigh 155 pounds. I run every day and go to my yearly check-up. I have never had any medical problems to speak of in my life.I pay a little over 2,000 a year to blue cross blue shield for my medical coverage.

I am the lifeblood of my health insurance company. They make their millions due to people like me. Once people start getting ill and old they are shrugged off onto government programs.

I know several people my age who are on medicaid and have been denied coverage due to their illnesses. They all have MS, a few have glacaoma and one suffers from a blood disease.

No one my age is carried under Medicaid unless they are denied Health Insurance, READ:They are already ill.

Of coarse these programs will not be shining beacons of fiscal superiority, their rolls are packed to the hilt with people with seriously bad medical conditions that incur thousands and thousands of dollars a year.

The private sector sucks up people like me. They then spit out all the seriously sick people since they are not worth the investment. 

Our nation&#039;s health care should not be profit driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone always comes back to pointing the finger at Medicare and Medicaid. While I agree that there is definitely some fraud, waste and inefficiencies that needs to be cleaned up in these programs they are not for profit companies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 25, I&#8217;m 5&#8242;10&#8243; and weigh 155 pounds. I run every day and go to my yearly check-up. I have never had any medical problems to speak of in my life.I pay a little over 2,000 a year to blue cross blue shield for my medical coverage.</p>
<p>I am the lifeblood of my health insurance company. They make their millions due to people like me. Once people start getting ill and old they are shrugged off onto government programs.</p>
<p>I know several people my age who are on medicaid and have been denied coverage due to their illnesses. They all have MS, a few have glacaoma and one suffers from a blood disease.</p>
<p>No one my age is carried under Medicaid unless they are denied Health Insurance, READ:They are already ill.</p>
<p>Of coarse these programs will not be shining beacons of fiscal superiority, their rolls are packed to the hilt with people with seriously bad medical conditions that incur thousands and thousands of dollars a year.</p>
<p>The private sector sucks up people like me. They then spit out all the seriously sick people since they are not worth the investment. </p>
<p>Our nation&#8217;s health care should not be profit driven.</p>
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		<title>By: averagejoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>averagejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to rethink after the election. Spin it how you want- if I don&#039;t trust the repubs I don&#039;s trust the dems either. Government control of healthcare is NOT wanted by the PEOPLE. The system works- just remove barriers. As an industry insurance companies don&#039;t make large enough margins on health insurance to be attractive- the vendors are killing them (as are trial lawyers, politicians, etc.) They are doing their business- INSURANCE- if you are high risk you SHOULD pay more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to rethink after the election. Spin it how you want- if I don&#8217;t trust the repubs I don&#8217;s trust the dems either. Government control of healthcare is NOT wanted by the PEOPLE. The system works- just remove barriers. As an industry insurance companies don&#8217;t make large enough margins on health insurance to be attractive- the vendors are killing them (as are trial lawyers, politicians, etc.) They are doing their business- INSURANCE- if you are high risk you SHOULD pay more.</p>
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		<title>By: andylevinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>andylevinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:It will not be long until the private health insurance model will no longer work –for anybody.

Well, duh Rick,when obama, pelosi, reid are activiely destroying free market insurance...should we expect free market insurance to grow?

There is one sector where premiums aren&#039;t rising....that is in the public sector where health care is handed totally free to government employees....mostly in local government....we have people out this way who have worked for the government and never had to reach into their own pockets for dime to buy an aspirin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:It will not be long until the private health insurance model will no longer work –for anybody.</p>
<p>Well, duh Rick,when obama, pelosi, reid are activiely destroying free market insurance&#8230;should we expect free market insurance to grow?</p>
<p>There is one sector where premiums aren&#8217;t rising&#8230;.that is in the public sector where health care is handed totally free to government employees&#8230;.mostly in local government&#8230;.we have people out this way who have worked for the government and never had to reach into their own pockets for dime to buy an aspirin</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1.	Exorbitant settlements in lawsuits that may or may not be the fault of the doctor or the hospital.&quot;

I have no problem with tort reform, but it isn&#039;t the core problem you think it is. Presently, about 1/2% of the health care dollar is due to malpractice claims. Some are funky - most are not. Further 33 states limit the amount a plaintiff can win.

&quot;2.	Doctors and hospitals that charge one fee to the insurance company and a fee many times larger than the insured fee if a person has no insurance.&quot;

Nobody likes this but that person who comes in without insurance has nobody negotiating a big group deal for them. This could largely go away if we could get everyone covered, right?

&quot;3.	State governments that require inclusion of such services as acupuncture, physical therapy, massage therapy, etc. as part of what insurance companies must provide in any given state.&quot;

An interesting point with some merit - but certainly not in the top four of what is causing our problems in health care. 

&quot;4.	Federal or State government regulations that prohibit insurance 
companies from offering insurance nationwide.&quot;

I don&#039;t have a problem with insurers crossing state lines - but I don&#039;t believe it is much of a solution. The four or five big health insurance companies own the large state based insurers. So why would Blue Cross of Michigan be much different when they price a policy for someone in California? The price is going to be pretty darn close to what Blue Cross of California chatges. This is not the solution it is cracked up to be.

5.	The presently lucrative insurance industry who can charge whatever they want.&quot;

Well, they can&#039;t charge whatever they want but they do pretty darn well. Don&#039;t you think this number 5 belongs somewhere like number 1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1.	Exorbitant settlements in lawsuits that may or may not be the fault of the doctor or the hospital.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no problem with tort reform, but it isn&#8217;t the core problem you think it is. Presently, about 1/2% of the health care dollar is due to malpractice claims. Some are funky &#8211; most are not. Further 33 states limit the amount a plaintiff can win.</p>
<p>&#8220;2.	Doctors and hospitals that charge one fee to the insurance company and a fee many times larger than the insured fee if a person has no insurance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nobody likes this but that person who comes in without insurance has nobody negotiating a big group deal for them. This could largely go away if we could get everyone covered, right?</p>
<p>&#8220;3.	State governments that require inclusion of such services as acupuncture, physical therapy, massage therapy, etc. as part of what insurance companies must provide in any given state.&#8221;</p>
<p>An interesting point with some merit &#8211; but certainly not in the top four of what is causing our problems in health care. </p>
<p>&#8220;4.	Federal or State government regulations that prohibit insurance<br />
companies from offering insurance nationwide.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with insurers crossing state lines &#8211; but I don&#8217;t believe it is much of a solution. The four or five big health insurance companies own the large state based insurers. So why would Blue Cross of Michigan be much different when they price a policy for someone in California? The price is going to be pretty darn close to what Blue Cross of California chatges. This is not the solution it is cracked up to be.</p>
<p>5.	The presently lucrative insurance industry who can charge whatever they want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, they can&#8217;t charge whatever they want but they do pretty darn well. Don&#8217;t you think this number 5 belongs somewhere like number 1?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it could happen but, given the trajectory we are on and the deep feelings of dislike by Americans toward the insurance companies, I don&#039;t think it would happen that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it could happen but, given the trajectory we are on and the deep feelings of dislike by Americans toward the insurance companies, I don&#8217;t think it would happen that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medicare is nationalized healthcare for those over 65.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medicare is nationalized healthcare for those over 65.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair enough.</p>
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