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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1">Melanie Eliasson</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer/2009/11/25/coma-man-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1">Melanie Eliasson</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s only one way to conduct this in a way that clearly will rule out any foul play. The facilitator must not understand the language used by the previously comatosed patient. The patient will then have to steer the facilitators finger letter by letter. Tha facilitator will not understand anyting that will be written so he/she can not take control over the writing. Rathe basic if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s only one way to conduct this in a way that clearly will rule out any foul play. The facilitator must not understand the language used by the previously comatosed patient. The patient will then have to steer the facilitators finger letter by letter. Tha facilitator will not understand anyting that will be written so he/she can not take control over the writing. Rathe basic if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: msarthur</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer/2009/11/25/coma-man-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>msarthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to join the main debate going on in the comments.  Instead, I wanted to note that this phenomenon, the ideomotor effect, often occurs without the &quot;subject&quot; being consciously aware of his/her involvement.  It is important to recognize this so that these therapists, if found &quot;guilty&quot; of such an effect, aren&#039;t burned at the stake for fraud.  Instead, they themselves earnestly believe they are not responsible for these hand movements (as was the case with the autism facilitators).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to join the main debate going on in the comments.  Instead, I wanted to note that this phenomenon, the ideomotor effect, often occurs without the &#8220;subject&#8221; being consciously aware of his/her involvement.  It is important to recognize this so that these therapists, if found &#8220;guilty&#8221; of such an effect, aren&#8217;t burned at the stake for fraud.  Instead, they themselves earnestly believe they are not responsible for these hand movements (as was the case with the autism facilitators).</p>
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		<title>By: thomasveil</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomasveil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of these statements - including the fact that a brain scan was the thing that made them aware of Rom Houbens situation can be found in this article (which is AFAIK the one breaking these news): http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,663022,00.html

Including this statement: &quot;Naturally, I tested him to rule out the possibility that it&#039;s actually the speech therapist doing the writing,&quot; says Laureys. &quot;We are sure that Rom is conscious.&quot;

Everything else can be found in there, or via a simple google search. Which is the minimum research that should be expected from the writer.
Especially judging from a little video and pretending to know better than the people there is extremely unscientific or lets say: unskeptical towards himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of these statements &#8211; including the fact that a brain scan was the thing that made them aware of Rom Houbens situation can be found in this article (which is AFAIK the one breaking these news): <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,663022,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,663022,00.html</a></p>
<p>Including this statement: &#8220;Naturally, I tested him to rule out the possibility that it&#8217;s actually the speech therapist doing the writing,&#8221; says Laureys. &#8220;We are sure that Rom is conscious.&#8221;</p>
<p>Everything else can be found in there, or via a simple google search. Which is the minimum research that should be expected from the writer.<br />
Especially judging from a little video and pretending to know better than the people there is extremely unscientific or lets say: unskeptical towards himself.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer/2009/11/25/coma-man-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All due respect, but where are these brain scans you&#039;re referring to – reference to them.

Where are these tests that &quot;confirm&quot; his writing is real – reference to them.

If you&#039;re going to call out the author of this article about doing research, show the facts, else your argument can be claimed to be just as invalid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All due respect, but where are these brain scans you&#8217;re referring to – reference to them.</p>
<p>Where are these tests that &#8220;confirm&#8221; his writing is real – reference to them.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to call out the author of this article about doing research, show the facts, else your argument can be claimed to be just as invalid.</p>
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		<title>By: thomasveil</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomasveil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if you did a minimum of research before writing this article. I doubt it - and that throws in my opinion very bad light on you and how you value your own skeptic principles.

Not only did brain scans clearly show that there is the activity of a conscious man. But also there were several tests done to confirm his writing is real. The tests you suggest.  
Add up to this, that the procedure of him learning to use the device took 3 years (starting with a hard to hoax yes-no device). 

And the main point btw. of the doctors that published the story, is that this happens way more often than people think. A large amount of people thought to be in coma are actually just unable to react strong enough.

Some basic fact checking would IMO be the minimum before you can seriously pull the work of these experienced doctors into doubt. You might do more harm than good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if you did a minimum of research before writing this article. I doubt it &#8211; and that throws in my opinion very bad light on you and how you value your own skeptic principles.</p>
<p>Not only did brain scans clearly show that there is the activity of a conscious man. But also there were several tests done to confirm his writing is real. The tests you suggest.<br />
Add up to this, that the procedure of him learning to use the device took 3 years (starting with a hard to hoax yes-no device). </p>
<p>And the main point btw. of the doctors that published the story, is that this happens way more often than people think. A large amount of people thought to be in coma are actually just unable to react strong enough.</p>
<p>Some basic fact checking would IMO be the minimum before you can seriously pull the work of these experienced doctors into doubt. You might do more harm than good.</p>
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		<title>By: marystack</title>
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		<dc:creator>marystack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I have seen the video and agree that the hand movements are brisk.  I would undoubtedly be slow and clumsy but Mr. Houbain has had the advantage of operating the keyboard for three years (a comparatively long time).  I think we will all know in time if this case was wishful thinking but it does not appear to be fraud on the part of the Houben family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I have seen the video and agree that the hand movements are brisk.  I would undoubtedly be slow and clumsy but Mr. Houbain has had the advantage of operating the keyboard for three years (a comparatively long time).  I think we will all know in time if this case was wishful thinking but it does not appear to be fraud on the part of the Houben family.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let’s talk about observation.

I originally observed this news letter on the front page of Yahoo about a week ago. I was amazed. I read the article, I didn’t see a video, and was just shocked. I believed it!

Then I saw the video.

Observations:
1) The keyboard is not a QWERTY keyboard, it is in alphabetical order. (5:30 in your video marystack). It is a small (perhaps useless observation) but an observation nonetheless.

2) I want YOU and everyone reading this to watch HOW FAST she’s moving his hand around. In a previous article I read (I don’t have a source, I’m sure you can find it) it said that she could feel him motioning which direction to go to type.

Do this: You and a friend, both with your eyes completely open, looking at a paper with ABCDEF etc to Z, have your friend put their hand into your hand and see if you can move to the right letter that they’re wanting to go to. Tell them to use minimal movement. Sure – it’s possible, but NOT NEARLY as FAST as this woman guides this man’s hand. I call BS.

It’s sad, really. I understand that people like this only want the best for the family &amp; friends, and really – the world. For all of us to see hope, it really is great. But unfortunately, cases like these, psychics, and other things are merely FAKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s talk about observation.</p>
<p>I originally observed this news letter on the front page of Yahoo about a week ago. I was amazed. I read the article, I didn’t see a video, and was just shocked. I believed it!</p>
<p>Then I saw the video.</p>
<p>Observations:<br />
1) The keyboard is not a QWERTY keyboard, it is in alphabetical order. (5:30 in your video marystack). It is a small (perhaps useless observation) but an observation nonetheless.</p>
<p>2) I want YOU and everyone reading this to watch HOW FAST she’s moving his hand around. In a previous article I read (I don’t have a source, I’m sure you can find it) it said that she could feel him motioning which direction to go to type.</p>
<p>Do this: You and a friend, both with your eyes completely open, looking at a paper with ABCDEF etc to Z, have your friend put their hand into your hand and see if you can move to the right letter that they’re wanting to go to. Tell them to use minimal movement. Sure – it’s possible, but NOT NEARLY as FAST as this woman guides this man’s hand. I call BS.</p>
<p>It’s sad, really. I understand that people like this only want the best for the family &amp; friends, and really – the world. For all of us to see hope, it really is great. But unfortunately, cases like these, psychics, and other things are merely FAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer/2009/11/25/coma-man-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(whoops meant to be a reply to marys last post sorry, delete if you want, reposting below)</description>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/michaelshermer/2009/11/25/coma-man-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s talk about observation.

I originally observed this news letter on the front page of Yahoo about a week ago.  I was amazed.  I read the article, I didn&#039;t see a video, and was just shocked.  I believed it!

Then I saw the video.

Observations:
1) The keyboard is not a QWERTY keyboard, it is in alphabetical order. (5:30 in your video marystack).  It is a small (perhaps useless observation) but an observation nonetheless.

2) I want YOU and everyone reading this to watch HOW FAST she&#039;s moving his hand around.  In a previous article I read (I don&#039;t have a source, I&#039;m sure you can find it) it said that she could feel him motioning which direction to go to type.

Do this:  You and a friend, both with your eyes completely open, looking at a paper with ABCDEF etc to Z, have your friend put their hand into your hand and see if you can move to the right letter that they&#039;re wanting to go to.  Tell them to use minimal movement.  Sure – it&#039;s possible, but NOT NEARLY as FAST as this woman guides this man&#039;s hand.  I call BS.

It&#039;s sad, really.  I understand that people like this only want the best for the family &amp; friends, and really - the world.  For all of us to see hope, it really is great.  But unfortunately, cases like these, psychics, and other things are merely FAKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about observation.</p>
<p>I originally observed this news letter on the front page of Yahoo about a week ago.  I was amazed.  I read the article, I didn&#8217;t see a video, and was just shocked.  I believed it!</p>
<p>Then I saw the video.</p>
<p>Observations:<br />
1) The keyboard is not a QWERTY keyboard, it is in alphabetical order. (5:30 in your video marystack).  It is a small (perhaps useless observation) but an observation nonetheless.</p>
<p>2) I want YOU and everyone reading this to watch HOW FAST she&#8217;s moving his hand around.  In a previous article I read (I don&#8217;t have a source, I&#8217;m sure you can find it) it said that she could feel him motioning which direction to go to type.</p>
<p>Do this:  You and a friend, both with your eyes completely open, looking at a paper with ABCDEF etc to Z, have your friend put their hand into your hand and see if you can move to the right letter that they&#8217;re wanting to go to.  Tell them to use minimal movement.  Sure – it&#8217;s possible, but NOT NEARLY as FAST as this woman guides this man&#8217;s hand.  I call BS.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad, really.  I understand that people like this only want the best for the family &amp; friends, and really &#8211; the world.  For all of us to see hope, it really is great.  But unfortunately, cases like these, psychics, and other things are merely FAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: Coma scam? &#171; Inside Cable News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coma scam? &#171; Inside Cable News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  True/Slant&#8217;s Michael Shermer argues the coma man story that&#8217;s been in the news recently is BS. If true, some high profile TV [...]</description>
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