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		<title>By: Fitting the facts&#8230; &#171; RUTROW.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fitting the facts&#8230; &#171; RUTROW.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deleted account</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Matt,

Goldman just got rated in the Top 10

&quot;most disliked companies in the USA&quot;

regards
olga shulman lednichenko</description>
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<p>Goldman just got rated in the Top 10</p>
<p>&#8220;most disliked companies in the USA&#8221;</p>
<p>regards<br />
olga shulman lednichenko</p>
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		<title>By: Big corporations say Jesus endorses giant profits&#8230; &#171; Check Your Premises</title>
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		<title>By: Deep Fried &#187; Archive &#187; Cross Purposes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: austrianbanker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To gypsysister. I am really puzzled by your reply. How can you accuse me of not understanding English and blame me for having to listen to the whole thing?

I gave the timings in my second post on this blog:

&quot;The talk starts at 05:30, Griffiths starts speaking at 14:05. The sentence above is at 15:00.&quot;

And then after having listened to it, you have absolutely nothing more to say. I find this even more astonishing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To gypsysister. I am really puzzled by your reply. How can you accuse me of not understanding English and blame me for having to listen to the whole thing?</p>
<p>I gave the timings in my second post on this blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;The talk starts at 05:30, Griffiths starts speaking at 14:05. The sentence above is at 15:00.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then after having listened to it, you have absolutely nothing more to say. I find this even more astonishing!</p>
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		<title>By: lncfr</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeless on the continent
Matt  Taibbi&#039;s credentials are pretty solid. He cut his teeth covering the financial collapse of the Soviet Union after the cold war. He has said he is terrified by what is being done here. I am too.

It doesn&#039;t take an advanced degree in mathematics, economics or philosophy to see what is being perpetrated on Americans and the world under the (too sophisticated to be comprehended by the unwashed masses) ethics of &quot;long term greedy&quot;. 
The perspective of the real ruling elite is that all property has always belonged to them by right anyway. 

By means of first monetizing everything of intrinsic value and then engineering perception of false perceived value, they created a more robust, diverse and self sufficient slave class which has grown seemingly unchecked up to this point. As such, the middle class has served it purpose and is now itself obsolete.

By the (self?) prophesied mechanism of disease and famine, the intent of these self appointed &quot;global custodians&quot; (their term) is coming into view. Anybody with the foresight and historical awareness to see the game being played out for what it is, is marginalized through ridicule and association with aberrant social extremes.  
Turn on the cartoons (corporate media channels) as they convince people that there is scarcity of vital &quot;vaccines&quot;. Never mind that thousands are being told they are mandatory on the threat of losing their jobs; and that every person who receives them has to sign a document holding the makers and treating-physicians harmless for potentially debilitating or even life-threatening side effects. Never mind that the patents for the the vaccines existed before these viruses were manufactured, or that the company awarded the no bid contract to supply the vaccines has already been caught shipping LIVE VIRUS to several European countries.  Ignore the fact that Donald Rumsfeld is a major shareholder in Baxter. 
These people abhor competition, side stepping normal regulation and distribution, they force their products into the market. If it really is what they say it is, why not release it in normal channels and let the natural laws of supply and demand apply? 
These are the fingerprints of “racketeering, influence, corruption and organization” (RICO).  It is criminal, government, industrial conspiracy personified.  
GS applies the same methods in their financial dealings, placing millions of people in crisis, and calmly reassures us that &#039;it&#039;s what Jesus would do&#039;, and that we must &#039;tolerate the inequalities to assure  future growth&#039;.  Growth of what? 

GS is only working (at this point) to transfer all property remaining in private hands (back) into theirs and their owners. They are intentionally bankrupting the Corporation of the U.S.A. There will be new currencies against which the domestic U.S. dollar (or Amero) will hold a fraction (1/6 - 1/10th maybe?) of its current value. They are intent on modulating the maximum casualty possible. It is called a variable yield weapon in military terms. Watch as they dump the remaining burden of toxic debt on BOA after Christmas (commercial real estate can&#039;t re-negotiate zero rent terms forever).

This is, and has been, the long term plan that the &quot;conspiracy theorists&quot; and &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; have been warning about as our once &quot;free&quot; country has quietly become a police state.  
Four weeks ago I was pulled over and ordered by police out of the station wagon I was driving on a geology field trip with my wife, child, 50-year-old employee, and her 20-year-old son. I was forcefully pushed onto the back of the car and vigorously searched by the Townes County police in Hiawassee, GA (it was the second such encounter in as many months, in different states, for me). I was never informed why. 
Because my employee&#039;s training is in nursing, and not in surviving police encounters (like mine), when the police lied to her and said it would go easier on her if she told them about anything they might find searching her vehicle, she admitted to having a small amount of marijuana in the car. That put the search in the car and they found a small trace in my tobacco pouch as well as a couple of grams (or less) of her own. They put us in handcuffs and took us to jail while my 10-year-old son looked on (Geology field trip: canceled – Social Studies: 48 hrs: credit).  
I will not go into the deprivations that occurred to my employee overnight there, but suffice it to say she was deeply traumatized.  She was cruelly treated, taunted and deprived of her civil, legal and human rights.  Her 25+ years of nursing came to an abrupt end with that arrest.  So much for going easier. 
The minimum sentence for an uncontested guilty plea to misdemeanor possession of marijuana less than an ounce in Georgia is: 1 year suspension of drivers license, $795 and 1-4 years of “medically supervised” drug and alcohol treatment. 
We live in our vehicle and the trailer it pulls. Our jobs require that we move at the least every 2 months (sometimes more often than that), all over the country, throughout the year.  As a result of the situation with the economy and a very bad run of luck with the weather. to-date this year we have deposited less than $18,000 into the bank, barely covering our minimums as we pay interest on the $4 per gallon gasoline we borrowed last year to get to work.  I am now faced with the choice of paying our monthly bills with 2 weekends remaining in our season, or hiring a lawyer. 
My brother (also a 12-year veteran sheriff) spoke with the arresting officer who intimated that if I chose to fight the charge, they could bring up child endangerment charges as well. 
Over an amount smaller than a raisin of a naturally growing, benign (arguably beneficent) herb that competes with legal alcohol and harmful pharmaceuticals; one can have their domicile, means to a livelihood, privilege to drive, their ability to travel, and right to worship in the manner of their choice, stripped away by a state that did not grant those privileges and whose laws are out of balance with the state that did, as well a large portion of the rest of the country. A state in which my Great Great Grandfather, founded the 2nd Baptist Church in Atlanta, his son, a bank (his wife Margret Welch Ham a regular correspondent and friend to President Jimmy Carter). Their son, Marshall Welch Ham, my grandfather, was born there and grew up watching the wealth of his family being confiscated through the great depression, He worked 20 years in service to the U.S. Government as a GAI appraiser, among the first 3 in the history of our nation, I might add, to hold top secret security clearance.  One of his sons was a police officer and Vietnam veteran, was in the motorcade when Kennedy was shot in 63. His sister, my mother, founded a school, albeit in Texas. 
I am the generation to which Thomas Jefferson referred as homeless on the continent conquered by my fathers. Ironically this was accomplished by the stroke of a pen from another relative of mine on my father&#039;s side, Woodrow Wilson, in 1913 the year my grandfather was born.  It is a situation I have adapted to as a lifestyle choice, in harmony with my beliefs, and by necessity. In 17 years I have never lived in any one place more than two months with two exceptions of three months each. 
In our work we teach a developmental activity that is a specialized form of juggling called “sticking”.  We sell the best of their kind, handmade by one small (struggling), American company, juggling sticks, in the world.  Our sales represent a significant portion of their sales volume annually,  We provide free access at special events for people to play, learn, and develop a skill that promotes mental acuity, enhanced brain-muscle coordination, increased proprioceptive ability and generally improved overall physical/mental fitness.  We create a non-competitive, play-centric, learning environment in which families and friends interact with our products and each other.  We self finance and operate in good standing with all of the municipalities, regulatory bodies, and communities in which we operate.  As we often return on an annual basis we strive to maintain stricter compliance to local custom and be better citizens than those to whom we provide our services.  We provide job opportunities and through the years have assisted in financing the advanced education of several of our associates.  We are under constant scrutiny as outsiders and must maintain a higher degree of impeccability in our actions as a result.  The primary capital in our enterprise is held in the honor-ability of our relations.  Our reputations are our resumes and our word is our contract.  
Brian Griffiths and his henchmen in government have put the populous of the world at huge, dire risk and got a big bonus for it. Is it a surprise that their PR tactics are geared to pluck the chords of the deepest held values of society? Why not? Their cabal authored the framework for all of the major belief systems. To them there is no audacity in expounding from a pulpit put in place by them for them. Personally I am in the mood for a revolt I think the catalyst may come after the write downs of Q1&amp;2 2010.  
These stark inequities beg the questions: Who&#039;s the fucking king around here? Does anybody remember what happens to bad kings? I want to kill these people but understand that is just a reaction to a primal survival instinct. Many people want them imprisoned. I think that is flawed thinking too. Would it not be better to force them to repair the damage they have done and live at the same level of poverty that they have inflicted on the peoples of the lands they have desolated? Make them start there and as they improve living conditions to an acceptable standard, they matriculate to a slightly higher level if they can survive. 
They must experience every effect they have caused to the degree that it informs their conscience, imparts responsibility for their actions, and awareness of their error. To my point of view they represent too great an intelligence asset to destroy by violence. The greatest technological innovations of humanity have been sequestered in their ketch for too long. Burning fuel could have become quaint by now if they were unable to effect their inbred desire (addiction) for absolute control of everything. 
They also represent a case history and lens focusing on the fallibility of men (humankind, but especially men) who deign to do the work of gods (take your pick) outside the framework of universal law. 
It is our perception and application of those higher laws which are our only hope for salvation as a species. To recognize the source of the disease in the single body of humanity and to consciously activate the means to heal it.  
Surviving the natural consequences of the deep arrogance of our Goldman Sachs appointed leaders and capitalist visionaries will be the biggest challenge for most people in the world. They don&#039;t have a plan for $20 bread and $50 gas much less no bread no gas and privately contracted, domestically trained. foreign troops in the street. 
Think that sounds extreme? I&#039;m teaching the military training instructor&#039;s children how to juggle near the new base here in Louisiana. Some of their parents (officers) have told me they are training foreign nationals in urban warfare to avoid the crisis of conscience that naturally would occur in the deployment of domestic operations. Said it to my face. 
I have seen soldiers in the street in various parts of the country.  It never gets reported in any significant measure in mainstream media channels but extensively through the Internet which is just a lot of actual people communicating their experiences through wires, antenna, and satellites.  Can&#039;t be trusted... no highly paid fact-checking teams to validate the evidence of their senses.  Fails to fit the orthodox view of life on television and the drones it feeds.  
I like Matt&#039;s writing style, too.  His research is solid and I can find very little, if anything, to dispute his point of view. Unless of course you own stock in GS and care nothing for the fate of your countrymen and women or humanity for that matter... in which case he should probably just &quot;shut up&quot; (to borrow the phrase from a popular conservative comedian), and let his betters decide what his life is worth and how it can best be spent.
Thank you, Matt. You are a beacon.

Paypal contributions to Lances legal defense fund can be sent to lanceatlarge@netzero.com or lancedeals@paypal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeless on the continent<br />
Matt  Taibbi&#8217;s credentials are pretty solid. He cut his teeth covering the financial collapse of the Soviet Union after the cold war. He has said he is terrified by what is being done here. I am too.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take an advanced degree in mathematics, economics or philosophy to see what is being perpetrated on Americans and the world under the (too sophisticated to be comprehended by the unwashed masses) ethics of &#8220;long term greedy&#8221;.<br />
The perspective of the real ruling elite is that all property has always belonged to them by right anyway. </p>
<p>By means of first monetizing everything of intrinsic value and then engineering perception of false perceived value, they created a more robust, diverse and self sufficient slave class which has grown seemingly unchecked up to this point. As such, the middle class has served it purpose and is now itself obsolete.</p>
<p>By the (self?) prophesied mechanism of disease and famine, the intent of these self appointed &#8220;global custodians&#8221; (their term) is coming into view. Anybody with the foresight and historical awareness to see the game being played out for what it is, is marginalized through ridicule and association with aberrant social extremes.<br />
Turn on the cartoons (corporate media channels) as they convince people that there is scarcity of vital &#8220;vaccines&#8221;. Never mind that thousands are being told they are mandatory on the threat of losing their jobs; and that every person who receives them has to sign a document holding the makers and treating-physicians harmless for potentially debilitating or even life-threatening side effects. Never mind that the patents for the the vaccines existed before these viruses were manufactured, or that the company awarded the no bid contract to supply the vaccines has already been caught shipping LIVE VIRUS to several European countries.  Ignore the fact that Donald Rumsfeld is a major shareholder in Baxter.<br />
These people abhor competition, side stepping normal regulation and distribution, they force their products into the market. If it really is what they say it is, why not release it in normal channels and let the natural laws of supply and demand apply?<br />
These are the fingerprints of “racketeering, influence, corruption and organization” (RICO).  It is criminal, government, industrial conspiracy personified.<br />
GS applies the same methods in their financial dealings, placing millions of people in crisis, and calmly reassures us that &#8216;it&#8217;s what Jesus would do&#8217;, and that we must &#8216;tolerate the inequalities to assure  future growth&#8217;.  Growth of what? </p>
<p>GS is only working (at this point) to transfer all property remaining in private hands (back) into theirs and their owners. They are intentionally bankrupting the Corporation of the U.S.A. There will be new currencies against which the domestic U.S. dollar (or Amero) will hold a fraction (1/6 &#8211; 1/10th maybe?) of its current value. They are intent on modulating the maximum casualty possible. It is called a variable yield weapon in military terms. Watch as they dump the remaining burden of toxic debt on BOA after Christmas (commercial real estate can&#8217;t re-negotiate zero rent terms forever).</p>
<p>This is, and has been, the long term plan that the &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; and &#8220;lunatic fringe&#8221; have been warning about as our once &#8220;free&#8221; country has quietly become a police state.<br />
Four weeks ago I was pulled over and ordered by police out of the station wagon I was driving on a geology field trip with my wife, child, 50-year-old employee, and her 20-year-old son. I was forcefully pushed onto the back of the car and vigorously searched by the Townes County police in Hiawassee, GA (it was the second such encounter in as many months, in different states, for me). I was never informed why.<br />
Because my employee&#8217;s training is in nursing, and not in surviving police encounters (like mine), when the police lied to her and said it would go easier on her if she told them about anything they might find searching her vehicle, she admitted to having a small amount of marijuana in the car. That put the search in the car and they found a small trace in my tobacco pouch as well as a couple of grams (or less) of her own. They put us in handcuffs and took us to jail while my 10-year-old son looked on (Geology field trip: canceled – Social Studies: 48 hrs: credit).<br />
I will not go into the deprivations that occurred to my employee overnight there, but suffice it to say she was deeply traumatized.  She was cruelly treated, taunted and deprived of her civil, legal and human rights.  Her 25+ years of nursing came to an abrupt end with that arrest.  So much for going easier.<br />
The minimum sentence for an uncontested guilty plea to misdemeanor possession of marijuana less than an ounce in Georgia is: 1 year suspension of drivers license, $795 and 1-4 years of “medically supervised” drug and alcohol treatment.<br />
We live in our vehicle and the trailer it pulls. Our jobs require that we move at the least every 2 months (sometimes more often than that), all over the country, throughout the year.  As a result of the situation with the economy and a very bad run of luck with the weather. to-date this year we have deposited less than $18,000 into the bank, barely covering our minimums as we pay interest on the $4 per gallon gasoline we borrowed last year to get to work.  I am now faced with the choice of paying our monthly bills with 2 weekends remaining in our season, or hiring a lawyer.<br />
My brother (also a 12-year veteran sheriff) spoke with the arresting officer who intimated that if I chose to fight the charge, they could bring up child endangerment charges as well.<br />
Over an amount smaller than a raisin of a naturally growing, benign (arguably beneficent) herb that competes with legal alcohol and harmful pharmaceuticals; one can have their domicile, means to a livelihood, privilege to drive, their ability to travel, and right to worship in the manner of their choice, stripped away by a state that did not grant those privileges and whose laws are out of balance with the state that did, as well a large portion of the rest of the country. A state in which my Great Great Grandfather, founded the 2nd Baptist Church in Atlanta, his son, a bank (his wife Margret Welch Ham a regular correspondent and friend to President Jimmy Carter). Their son, Marshall Welch Ham, my grandfather, was born there and grew up watching the wealth of his family being confiscated through the great depression, He worked 20 years in service to the U.S. Government as a GAI appraiser, among the first 3 in the history of our nation, I might add, to hold top secret security clearance.  One of his sons was a police officer and Vietnam veteran, was in the motorcade when Kennedy was shot in 63. His sister, my mother, founded a school, albeit in Texas.<br />
I am the generation to which Thomas Jefferson referred as homeless on the continent conquered by my fathers. Ironically this was accomplished by the stroke of a pen from another relative of mine on my father&#8217;s side, Woodrow Wilson, in 1913 the year my grandfather was born.  It is a situation I have adapted to as a lifestyle choice, in harmony with my beliefs, and by necessity. In 17 years I have never lived in any one place more than two months with two exceptions of three months each.<br />
In our work we teach a developmental activity that is a specialized form of juggling called “sticking”.  We sell the best of their kind, handmade by one small (struggling), American company, juggling sticks, in the world.  Our sales represent a significant portion of their sales volume annually,  We provide free access at special events for people to play, learn, and develop a skill that promotes mental acuity, enhanced brain-muscle coordination, increased proprioceptive ability and generally improved overall physical/mental fitness.  We create a non-competitive, play-centric, learning environment in which families and friends interact with our products and each other.  We self finance and operate in good standing with all of the municipalities, regulatory bodies, and communities in which we operate.  As we often return on an annual basis we strive to maintain stricter compliance to local custom and be better citizens than those to whom we provide our services.  We provide job opportunities and through the years have assisted in financing the advanced education of several of our associates.  We are under constant scrutiny as outsiders and must maintain a higher degree of impeccability in our actions as a result.  The primary capital in our enterprise is held in the honor-ability of our relations.  Our reputations are our resumes and our word is our contract.<br />
Brian Griffiths and his henchmen in government have put the populous of the world at huge, dire risk and got a big bonus for it. Is it a surprise that their PR tactics are geared to pluck the chords of the deepest held values of society? Why not? Their cabal authored the framework for all of the major belief systems. To them there is no audacity in expounding from a pulpit put in place by them for them. Personally I am in the mood for a revolt I think the catalyst may come after the write downs of Q1&amp;2 2010.<br />
These stark inequities beg the questions: Who&#8217;s the fucking king around here? Does anybody remember what happens to bad kings? I want to kill these people but understand that is just a reaction to a primal survival instinct. Many people want them imprisoned. I think that is flawed thinking too. Would it not be better to force them to repair the damage they have done and live at the same level of poverty that they have inflicted on the peoples of the lands they have desolated? Make them start there and as they improve living conditions to an acceptable standard, they matriculate to a slightly higher level if they can survive.<br />
They must experience every effect they have caused to the degree that it informs their conscience, imparts responsibility for their actions, and awareness of their error. To my point of view they represent too great an intelligence asset to destroy by violence. The greatest technological innovations of humanity have been sequestered in their ketch for too long. Burning fuel could have become quaint by now if they were unable to effect their inbred desire (addiction) for absolute control of everything.<br />
They also represent a case history and lens focusing on the fallibility of men (humankind, but especially men) who deign to do the work of gods (take your pick) outside the framework of universal law.<br />
It is our perception and application of those higher laws which are our only hope for salvation as a species. To recognize the source of the disease in the single body of humanity and to consciously activate the means to heal it. <br />
Surviving the natural consequences of the deep arrogance of our Goldman Sachs appointed leaders and capitalist visionaries will be the biggest challenge for most people in the world. They don&#8217;t have a plan for $20 bread and $50 gas much less no bread no gas and privately contracted, domestically trained. foreign troops in the street.<br />
Think that sounds extreme? I&#8217;m teaching the military training instructor&#8217;s children how to juggle near the new base here in Louisiana. Some of their parents (officers) have told me they are training foreign nationals in urban warfare to avoid the crisis of conscience that naturally would occur in the deployment of domestic operations. Said it to my face.<br />
I have seen soldiers in the street in various parts of the country.  It never gets reported in any significant measure in mainstream media channels but extensively through the Internet which is just a lot of actual people communicating their experiences through wires, antenna, and satellites.  Can&#8217;t be trusted&#8230; no highly paid fact-checking teams to validate the evidence of their senses.  Fails to fit the orthodox view of life on television and the drones it feeds.<br />
I like Matt&#8217;s writing style, too.  His research is solid and I can find very little, if anything, to dispute his point of view. Unless of course you own stock in GS and care nothing for the fate of your countrymen and women or humanity for that matter&#8230; in which case he should probably just &#8220;shut up&#8221; (to borrow the phrase from a popular conservative comedian), and let his betters decide what his life is worth and how it can best be spent.<br />
Thank you, Matt. You are a beacon.</p>
<p>Paypal contributions to Lances legal defense fund can be sent to <a href="mailto:lanceatlarge@netzero.com">lanceatlarge@netzero.com</a> or <a href="mailto:lancedeals@paypal.com">lancedeals@paypal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: gypsysister</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsysister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;This is what the discussion in St Pauls was all about. It is a good discussion and why don’t you listen to it and dispell any myth Matt has given you that this was blasphemous and an insult to each and everyone of us outside the financial gravy pots.

Read my posts, or do you understand english?  I listened to the discussion at St. Paul&#039;s.  I had to listen from the beginning even to find the spot you originally mentioned due to the fact that the link you provided did not have clock time.

Since I&#039;m becoming increasingly convinced you are determined my post is an echo of everyone else&#039;s or you need a better translator, I&#039;ll keep it to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;This is what the discussion in St Pauls was all about. It is a good discussion and why don’t you listen to it and dispell any myth Matt has given you that this was blasphemous and an insult to each and everyone of us outside the financial gravy pots.</p>
<p>Read my posts, or do you understand english?  I listened to the discussion at St. Paul&#8217;s.  I had to listen from the beginning even to find the spot you originally mentioned due to the fact that the link you provided did not have clock time.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m becoming increasingly convinced you are determined my post is an echo of everyone else&#8217;s or you need a better translator, I&#8217;ll keep it to this.</p>
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		<title>By: austrianbanker</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/11/04/goldman-one-ups-gordon-gekko-says-jesus-embraced-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-4405</link>
		<dc:creator>austrianbanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s stick with the topic, don&#039;t expand it to something it isn&#039;t about. I haven&#039;t commented on any of the other GS people running around passing comments as I am not about apologising for their views. My commentary was just about this post by Matt and nobody and nothing else.

The title says Jesus embraced greed. Suddenly we have gone from talking about self interest to greed. This is journalism at its best. You take something out of context and warp it around and suddenly you have a totally new and different discussion. This is what Solzhenitsyn took offense to back in 1978 and nothing much has really changed from then, it has even gotten worse as this particular event is evidence of. I like the fact that people can blog and voice their opinion on the Internet, it&#039;s fantastic. However, it comes with a set of responsibilities and Matt showed he enjoys the limelight but cares nothing for his responsibility to check facts before opening mouth to speak. My point about the link was that it took me close to no time at all to find it. I therefore find that it is inexcusable to waste everybody&#039;s time over something which wasn&#039;t news. Media publishing retractions. Well as you seem to want to point out, Bloomberg changed their article when it was pointed out that it was wrong. How come they made the mistake? Did it matter that they fixed it? Evidently not. Media everywhere now believes that some person at GS (who I don&#039;t know or have met) is some kind of weirdo spouting that Jesus preached that greed was good. But that never happened. BTW, Bloomberg changed it because I asked them to change it. It&#039;s that simple. If I or someone else had not bothered to point out that it was wrong, I&#039;m sure it would have stayed the way it was.

Anyway, that&#039;s one half of my criticism. The other half is that the way Matt is talking this story and then adding his own views on what self interest is all about is showing how uneducated he is. In Matt&#039;s view self interest has no place on the market and that&#039;s not what Jesus meant at all. But if you analyse the subject you will find that both are true. If you care nothing for yourself you will care nothing about your neighbour. This seems impossible but look around you, the world is full of places with bad culture where violence and economic activity is at an all time high/low.

Self interest in the economy is a pillar of its existance. Adam Smith knew this and so did a whole lot of very intelligent people. Without the contributions of these we would indeed not be sitting here and typing these arguments back and forth. The market would simply not exist without self interest. This is what the discussion in St Pauls was all about. It is a good discussion and why don&#039;t you listen to it and dispell any myth Matt has given you that this was blasphemous and an insult to each and everyone of us outside the financial gravy pots.

AB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s stick with the topic, don&#8217;t expand it to something it isn&#8217;t about. I haven&#8217;t commented on any of the other GS people running around passing comments as I am not about apologising for their views. My commentary was just about this post by Matt and nobody and nothing else.</p>
<p>The title says Jesus embraced greed. Suddenly we have gone from talking about self interest to greed. This is journalism at its best. You take something out of context and warp it around and suddenly you have a totally new and different discussion. This is what Solzhenitsyn took offense to back in 1978 and nothing much has really changed from then, it has even gotten worse as this particular event is evidence of. I like the fact that people can blog and voice their opinion on the Internet, it&#8217;s fantastic. However, it comes with a set of responsibilities and Matt showed he enjoys the limelight but cares nothing for his responsibility to check facts before opening mouth to speak. My point about the link was that it took me close to no time at all to find it. I therefore find that it is inexcusable to waste everybody&#8217;s time over something which wasn&#8217;t news. Media publishing retractions. Well as you seem to want to point out, Bloomberg changed their article when it was pointed out that it was wrong. How come they made the mistake? Did it matter that they fixed it? Evidently not. Media everywhere now believes that some person at GS (who I don&#8217;t know or have met) is some kind of weirdo spouting that Jesus preached that greed was good. But that never happened. BTW, Bloomberg changed it because I asked them to change it. It&#8217;s that simple. If I or someone else had not bothered to point out that it was wrong, I&#8217;m sure it would have stayed the way it was.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s one half of my criticism. The other half is that the way Matt is talking this story and then adding his own views on what self interest is all about is showing how uneducated he is. In Matt&#8217;s view self interest has no place on the market and that&#8217;s not what Jesus meant at all. But if you analyse the subject you will find that both are true. If you care nothing for yourself you will care nothing about your neighbour. This seems impossible but look around you, the world is full of places with bad culture where violence and economic activity is at an all time high/low.</p>
<p>Self interest in the economy is a pillar of its existance. Adam Smith knew this and so did a whole lot of very intelligent people. Without the contributions of these we would indeed not be sitting here and typing these arguments back and forth. The market would simply not exist without self interest. This is what the discussion in St Pauls was all about. It is a good discussion and why don&#8217;t you listen to it and dispell any myth Matt has given you that this was blasphemous and an insult to each and everyone of us outside the financial gravy pots.</p>
<p>AB</p>
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		<title>By: gypsysister</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/11/04/goldman-one-ups-gordon-gekko-says-jesus-embraced-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-4077</link>
		<dc:creator>gypsysister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>austrianbanker,

1st, I&#039;m replying to my post because I can&#039;t seem to reply to yours.

I was wondering if you would come back here and respond, and was curious to your response.  I must admit that what you wrote was not what I expected.  Perhaps there&#039;s something lost in translation, or perhaps because so many have reacted negatively to you, you decided that I was still saying that everything Matt was saying was all correct.  (?)

So, to be clear, I was basically supporting your post, but giving you some reason as to why you may have rankled some of the others here.  Here&#039;s the break down:

Supporting you:

&quot;This rant contains more of what should have been said the 1st time – specifically, the link to the full debate.&quot;  [note also:  I&#039;m taking note of your audio link, and I did listen to it.]

&quot;I am glad that you posted in the sense that this shouldn’t be an echo chamber.&quot;

Here&#039;s where I wondered if you had more instances where Matt had made fact errors:

&quot;You have read some of his writing; you can see Taibbi’s pretty good about source checking. Or perhaps you know where all of the falsehoods are; can you refute them? &quot;

So my question here is NOT was Matt on the money with his original post, because you&#039;ve already given the audio link, and the Bloomberg article I cited made an update to correct itself, so the original source was screwed up and Matt erred in going there 1st.  I felt no need to point this out, as you had already done so.  I also posted about the Bloomberg article BEFORE yo posted the audio file, NOT after.  Or did you check the date/time of my older post?

My question was about prior articles that he had written.  Did you find factual errors in them too?  If so, what are they?  If you&#039;ve read them, as have I and others here, then you must have some insight.  At this point, I have no evidence in the articles on Goldman Sachs and U.S. health care that lacked integrity.  If you can say otherwise, here&#039;s your chance.

[Yes, I also wondered, &quot;Or do you just not like the tenor of his writing style? Perhaps your rant was an attempt at an homage toward his digs?&quot;  I wondered this in case you had nothing else to dispute in Matt&#039;s writings or interviews.]

Thanks for the &quot;argument from authority&quot; link.  Sorry, though, it does not apply to me, unless you need further clarification of my English.

Thanks also for the link to Solzhenitsyn&#039;s speech.  I&#039;m not entirely sure it supports you, but I will help you out.  No, Matt didn&#039;t apologize, but he went on with the quote from Blankfein to which I also referred (see reply to my original post which was supposed to be a reply to my reply to you - oh, poo on my replying).  OK, you have something there.  However, I&#039;m not sure that Solzhenitsyn in1978 realized that publications do print error rebuffing in 1 of 2 places:  1.  In small print at the bottom of page one, or sometimes later (the former is better) or 2.  On the editorial page, when someone has sent the information directly to the editor.

I will say that in general, Matt is one of the guys who collects his facts.  That doesn&#039;t make him infallible, just generally a good source - colorful language at no extra charge.

I do feel that Goldman Sach&#039;s tendency to justify their actions with anything - the situation, we were saving you, religion - is a problem.  To be sure we&#039;re clear here:  Griffiths did not make such a claim; Blankfein did.  Blankfein speaks more for GS than Griffiths, so yes I find that offensive.  Given the company&#039;s general arrogance toward those suffering in the fallout of bad bad financial practices, I have a hard time believing is was just an &quot;off the cuff&quot; remark any more than Blankfein referring to himself as a &quot;blue collar guy.&quot;

As for your comment here:

&quot;must not attempt to offend you or the sectarian leader himself next time.&quot;  

I would love to think you&#039;re being genuine so that I won&#039;t think you&#039;re being sarcastic with me.  I was not offended by your remarks.  I&#039;m not sure how you sensed that from my response to you.  Can you point out what I said that showed that I was offended?

To sum up - yes, post with your differences.  If you want to be snarky, go ahead, just don&#039;t attribute snarkiness where it doesn&#039;t belong, and expect some people to come back at you with more snark.  I am doing my nest not to be snarky here, but to clarify.  If you think otherwise, feel free to point that out as well.

Lastly, my point in this post is not so much to defend Matt Taibbi, but to make you&#039;re as fastidious about your posting and rebuttals as you wish Matt to be, and to make sure you actually understand what my response entailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>austrianbanker,</p>
<p>1st, I&#8217;m replying to my post because I can&#8217;t seem to reply to yours.</p>
<p>I was wondering if you would come back here and respond, and was curious to your response.  I must admit that what you wrote was not what I expected.  Perhaps there&#8217;s something lost in translation, or perhaps because so many have reacted negatively to you, you decided that I was still saying that everything Matt was saying was all correct.  (?)</p>
<p>So, to be clear, I was basically supporting your post, but giving you some reason as to why you may have rankled some of the others here.  Here&#8217;s the break down:</p>
<p>Supporting you:</p>
<p>&#8220;This rant contains more of what should have been said the 1st time – specifically, the link to the full debate.&#8221;  [note also:  I'm taking note of your audio link, and I did listen to it.]</p>
<p>&#8220;I am glad that you posted in the sense that this shouldn’t be an echo chamber.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where I wondered if you had more instances where Matt had made fact errors:</p>
<p>&#8220;You have read some of his writing; you can see Taibbi’s pretty good about source checking. Or perhaps you know where all of the falsehoods are; can you refute them? &#8221;</p>
<p>So my question here is NOT was Matt on the money with his original post, because you&#8217;ve already given the audio link, and the Bloomberg article I cited made an update to correct itself, so the original source was screwed up and Matt erred in going there 1st.  I felt no need to point this out, as you had already done so.  I also posted about the Bloomberg article BEFORE yo posted the audio file, NOT after.  Or did you check the date/time of my older post?</p>
<p>My question was about prior articles that he had written.  Did you find factual errors in them too?  If so, what are they?  If you&#8217;ve read them, as have I and others here, then you must have some insight.  At this point, I have no evidence in the articles on Goldman Sachs and U.S. health care that lacked integrity.  If you can say otherwise, here&#8217;s your chance.</p>
<p>[Yes, I also wondered, "Or do you just not like the tenor of his writing style? Perhaps your rant was an attempt at an homage toward his digs?"  I wondered this in case you had nothing else to dispute in Matt's writings or interviews.]</p>
<p>Thanks for the &#8220;argument from authority&#8221; link.  Sorry, though, it does not apply to me, unless you need further clarification of my English.</p>
<p>Thanks also for the link to Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s speech.  I&#8217;m not entirely sure it supports you, but I will help you out.  No, Matt didn&#8217;t apologize, but he went on with the quote from Blankfein to which I also referred (see reply to my original post which was supposed to be a reply to my reply to you &#8211; oh, poo on my replying).  OK, you have something there.  However, I&#8217;m not sure that Solzhenitsyn in1978 realized that publications do print error rebuffing in 1 of 2 places:  1.  In small print at the bottom of page one, or sometimes later (the former is better) or 2.  On the editorial page, when someone has sent the information directly to the editor.</p>
<p>I will say that in general, Matt is one of the guys who collects his facts.  That doesn&#8217;t make him infallible, just generally a good source &#8211; colorful language at no extra charge.</p>
<p>I do feel that Goldman Sach&#8217;s tendency to justify their actions with anything &#8211; the situation, we were saving you, religion &#8211; is a problem.  To be sure we&#8217;re clear here:  Griffiths did not make such a claim; Blankfein did.  Blankfein speaks more for GS than Griffiths, so yes I find that offensive.  Given the company&#8217;s general arrogance toward those suffering in the fallout of bad bad financial practices, I have a hard time believing is was just an &#8220;off the cuff&#8221; remark any more than Blankfein referring to himself as a &#8220;blue collar guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for your comment here:</p>
<p>&#8220;must not attempt to offend you or the sectarian leader himself next time.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I would love to think you&#8217;re being genuine so that I won&#8217;t think you&#8217;re being sarcastic with me.  I was not offended by your remarks.  I&#8217;m not sure how you sensed that from my response to you.  Can you point out what I said that showed that I was offended?</p>
<p>To sum up &#8211; yes, post with your differences.  If you want to be snarky, go ahead, just don&#8217;t attribute snarkiness where it doesn&#8217;t belong, and expect some people to come back at you with more snark.  I am doing my nest not to be snarky here, but to clarify.  If you think otherwise, feel free to point that out as well.</p>
<p>Lastly, my point in this post is not so much to defend Matt Taibbi, but to make you&#8217;re as fastidious about your posting and rebuttals as you wish Matt to be, and to make sure you actually understand what my response entailed.</p>
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		<title>By: austrianbanker</title>
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		<dc:creator>austrianbanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) I don&#039;t see how you can claim that he is good at checking sources. He didn&#039;t make any effort at all in doing so this time. The fact of the matter is that the audio from the debate was available before Matt commented. If he had searched and listened himself to the debate he would IMHO concluded that there was nothing to write about. This was not a news item and by making it one he wasted all of your time and effort. Some here appear to argue that it is not about what happened but more a matter of principal, which makes the matter even more absurd.

2) I provided the link to the audio file. There is no need for you to speculate or to refer to some other authoritative source. You can listen yourself and judge whether the name calling of Jesus was relevant to the discussion being held or not.

3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

4) As far as the confusion between the item being discussed and what I said about Matt. This was a retort on Matts own diatribe in his post. I am sorry if I offendeed anyone by commenting on that, it seems this hurt lots of feelings ... must not attempt to offend you or the sectarian leader himself next time.

5) I am in good company when it comes to being in contempt of poor journalism.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I don&#8217;t see how you can claim that he is good at checking sources. He didn&#8217;t make any effort at all in doing so this time. The fact of the matter is that the audio from the debate was available before Matt commented. If he had searched and listened himself to the debate he would IMHO concluded that there was nothing to write about. This was not a news item and by making it one he wasted all of your time and effort. Some here appear to argue that it is not about what happened but more a matter of principal, which makes the matter even more absurd.</p>
<p>2) I provided the link to the audio file. There is no need for you to speculate or to refer to some other authoritative source. You can listen yourself and judge whether the name calling of Jesus was relevant to the discussion being held or not.</p>
<p>3) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority</a></p>
<p>4) As far as the confusion between the item being discussed and what I said about Matt. This was a retort on Matts own diatribe in his post. I am sorry if I offendeed anyone by commenting on that, it seems this hurt lots of feelings &#8230; must not attempt to offend you or the sectarian leader himself next time.</p>
<p>5) I am in good company when it comes to being in contempt of poor journalism.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html</a></p>
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