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		<title>By: mathenjp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathenjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goldman already irked and suing the proprietor of http://www.goldmansachs666.com/ .. and off course they have no case since the site merely discusses facts and events behind goldman&#039;s doing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goldman already irked and suing the proprietor of <a href="http://www.goldmansachs666.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.goldmansachs666.com/</a> .. and off course they have no case since the site merely discusses facts and events behind goldman&#8217;s doing..</p>
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		<title>By: triviadude318</title>
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		<dc:creator>triviadude318</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was thinking about suing you&quot; is the most overused threat since.... I don&#039;t know it&#039;s been so long since the corporate lawyer weasels took over I can&#039;t remember what BS threats people used to use.   

I actually think corporations suing people for speaking their minds is a good thing.  Despite the fact that they exercise at least, if not more, power over our lives than governments do, corporations aren&#039;t subject to the Freedom of Information act.  

On the other hand, if one of these weasels is unwise enough to sue somebody, then they could potentially open themselves up to disocovery and all the nastiness that might reveal. They might like to leak such threats but I can assure you that their lawyers are advising them that the last thing they want to do is to go into open court and be forced to open their books to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was thinking about suing you&#8221; is the most overused threat since&#8230;. I don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s been so long since the corporate lawyer weasels took over I can&#8217;t remember what BS threats people used to use.   </p>
<p>I actually think corporations suing people for speaking their minds is a good thing.  Despite the fact that they exercise at least, if not more, power over our lives than governments do, corporations aren&#8217;t subject to the Freedom of Information act.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, if one of these weasels is unwise enough to sue somebody, then they could potentially open themselves up to disocovery and all the nastiness that might reveal. They might like to leak such threats but I can assure you that their lawyers are advising them that the last thing they want to do is to go into open court and be forced to open their books to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: lexalexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexalexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries, Matt: The LAST thing GS wants right now is to have someone else&#039;s lawyers pawing through their records and deposing their executives, particularly if they didn&#039;t have complete control over whether the fruits of that discovery got posted on some Web site somewhere. There is a less than zero chance that they&#039;re going to sue you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, Matt: The LAST thing GS wants right now is to have someone else&#8217;s lawyers pawing through their records and deposing their executives, particularly if they didn&#8217;t have complete control over whether the fruits of that discovery got posted on some Web site somewhere. There is a less than zero chance that they&#8217;re going to sue you.</p>
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		<title>By: masha</title>
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		<dc:creator>masha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, now you really have to get back to healthcare deadline.  That is where the next Ellie is going to come from, I know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, now you really have to get back to healthcare deadline.  That is where the next Ellie is going to come from, I know it.</p>
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		<title>By: bflaska</title>
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		<dc:creator>bflaska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I hear about Goldman Sachs, the more unpleasant they sound.  Maybe you&#039;re just not polite enough, Matt.

You should revere them as the Lords of Time
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KH05Dj03.html

Or detail their charitable behaviors
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/gossip/pagesix/goldman_sachs_wives_hate_to_wait_183044.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I hear about Goldman Sachs, the more unpleasant they sound.  Maybe you&#8217;re just not polite enough, Matt.</p>
<p>You should revere them as the Lords of Time<br />
<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KH05Dj03.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KH05Dj03.html</a></p>
<p>Or detail their charitable behaviors<br />
<a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/gossip/pagesix/goldman_sachs_wives_hate_to_wait_183044.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052009/gossip/pagesix/goldman_sachs_wives_hate_to_wait_183044.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: roberthenryeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>roberthenryeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing, Mr. Taibbi:

If Goldman sues you, they have to demonstrate damage.

That should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing, Mr. Taibbi:</p>
<p>If Goldman sues you, they have to demonstrate damage.</p>
<p>That should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: roberthenryeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>roberthenryeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Taibbi:

They won&#039;t sue, because:
1. Unfortunately, you have not hurt their business model;
2. If they sue, they&#039;re open to discovery.

Being sued is worse than a royal pain, it&#039;s an legally sanctioned assault, readily available to people with the money to fund the process.  I don&#039;t wish it on you.

But if they&#039;re stupid enough to do so, make them pay.  I think there would be a lot of support for you, and for your case.  I really don&#039;t think they want Paulson, or his phone records, hauled into court.

I think their basic case comes down to:  We weren&#039;t the only ones who did what we did, and are still doing.  In other words, Mr. Taibbi was correct, but why single out us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Taibbi:</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t sue, because:<br />
1. Unfortunately, you have not hurt their business model;<br />
2. If they sue, they&#8217;re open to discovery.</p>
<p>Being sued is worse than a royal pain, it&#8217;s an legally sanctioned assault, readily available to people with the money to fund the process.  I don&#8217;t wish it on you.</p>
<p>But if they&#8217;re stupid enough to do so, make them pay.  I think there would be a lot of support for you, and for your case.  I really don&#8217;t think they want Paulson, or his phone records, hauled into court.</p>
<p>I think their basic case comes down to:  We weren&#8217;t the only ones who did what we did, and are still doing.  In other words, Mr. Taibbi was correct, but why single out us?</p>
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		<title>By: scooterkpft</title>
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		<dc:creator>scooterkpft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Goldman has weighed suing me

For your weight in Goldman Sacks?

Your fat rendered down  post apocalyptic barter futures in the food and/or energy commodity trades?

Name recognition capture copyrights.

Or just the same old make an example.... see uppity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Goldman has weighed suing me</p>
<p>For your weight in Goldman Sacks?</p>
<p>Your fat rendered down  post apocalyptic barter futures in the food and/or energy commodity trades?</p>
<p>Name recognition capture copyrights.</p>
<p>Or just the same old make an example&#8230;. see uppity</p>
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		<title>By: Serena DiPitti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serena DiPitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Concurrently with the pricing of the offering of the Notes, we intend to enter into a swap transaction with an affiliate of the underwriter, Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner &amp; Smith Incorporated (“MLPF&amp;S”), to hedge completely our market risk under the Notes. 

Assuming there are no changes in the level of the Index and no changes in market conditions or any other relevant factors, the price, if any, at which MLPF&amp;S or another purchaser might be willing to purchase your Notes in a secondary market transaction is expected to be lower, and could be substantially lower, than the original public offering price of the Notes. 

For more information, see “Risk Factors” in the accompanying product supplement ARN-PF&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Concurrently with the pricing of the offering of the Notes, we intend to enter into a swap transaction with an affiliate of the underwriter, Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner &amp; Smith Incorporated (“MLPF&amp;S”), to hedge completely our market risk under the Notes. </p>
<p>Assuming there are no changes in the level of the Index and no changes in market conditions or any other relevant factors, the price, if any, at which MLPF&amp;S or another purchaser might be willing to purchase your Notes in a secondary market transaction is expected to be lower, and could be substantially lower, than the original public offering price of the Notes. </p>
<p>For more information, see “Risk Factors” in the accompanying product supplement ARN-PF&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Serena DiPitti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serena DiPitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’d also like to see someone look into the “Project Knight” alliance between Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, Wachovia Bank, Merrill Lynch, and the Knight Acquisition Corp, 

“formed at the direction of American International Group, Inc. and its affiliates”:

Goldman Sachs Capital Partners, Riverstone Holdings LLC, and The Carlyle Group; all of whom came together to form an entity that acquired all of the stock of Managing General Partner for Kinder Morgan Energy Partners, L.P. (formerly Enron Liquids Pipeline L.P.).   
AIG’s investment in the venture was guaranteed by their subsidiary: AIG-FP, which issued a guarantee letter pledging an investment of $1,263,504,879.  

$1.3 Billion they came up with.  

It seems to me taxpayers are forking over their good money to Goldman and AIG, in exchange for worthless paper promises; while meantime, Goldman, AIG, and their associates are locking up private interest in a valuable global commodity.   

I could be wrong in my interpretation of the facts, but these are the facts: quoted directly from the SEC filings. 

Personally, it looks to me that we got screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d also like to see someone look into the “Project Knight” alliance between Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, Wachovia Bank, Merrill Lynch, and the Knight Acquisition Corp, </p>
<p>“formed at the direction of American International Group, Inc. and its affiliates”:</p>
<p>Goldman Sachs Capital Partners, Riverstone Holdings LLC, and The Carlyle Group; all of whom came together to form an entity that acquired all of the stock of Managing General Partner for Kinder Morgan Energy Partners, L.P. (formerly Enron Liquids Pipeline L.P.).<br />
AIG’s investment in the venture was guaranteed by their subsidiary: AIG-FP, which issued a guarantee letter pledging an investment of $1,263,504,879.  </p>
<p>$1.3 Billion they came up with.  </p>
<p>It seems to me taxpayers are forking over their good money to Goldman and AIG, in exchange for worthless paper promises; while meantime, Goldman, AIG, and their associates are locking up private interest in a valuable global commodity.   </p>
<p>I could be wrong in my interpretation of the facts, but these are the facts: quoted directly from the SEC filings. </p>
<p>Personally, it looks to me that we got screwed.</p>
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