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	<title>Comments on: On not Eating Animals: Q&amp;A with Jonathan Safran Foer</title>
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		<title>By: Saturday Links &#171; The Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturday Links &#171; The Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on with Eating Animals, Katie Drummond interviewed Jon Safran Foer:  But the stance in your book seems to firmly draw the line on how we conceive of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Katie Drummond</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/katiedrummond/2009/11/02/eating-animals-jonathan-safran-foer/comment-page-1/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Drummond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin: I&#039;m with you. I think these issues are complex, sure - food and what we consume overlaps with so much of our lifestyle, friends, traditions, norms, etc. That said, the issue always has been black-and-white to me. When I was 12, I said to myself &quot;this is wrong.&quot; Sure, my ideas have become more sophisticated, but they are still based on that fundamental baseline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin: I&#8217;m with you. I think these issues are complex, sure &#8211; food and what we consume overlaps with so much of our lifestyle, friends, traditions, norms, etc. That said, the issue always has been black-and-white to me. When I was 12, I said to myself &#8220;this is wrong.&#8221; Sure, my ideas have become more sophisticated, but they are still based on that fundamental baseline.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Horgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Horgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting conversation, and probably will push me a bit more to read the book. I&#039;m glad to hear that it&#039;s not an all-out call to vegan conversion - as I think JSF recognized, it&#039;s tough to convince people if you preach to hard.
Having said that - and in order to complicate my own comment - I think he might be wrong that people &quot;are turned off&quot; by black-and-white scenarios. I&#039;d wager that actually, that&#039;s exactly when people will start paying attention: the &quot;either we continue and die, or stop and live&quot; situation. How that comes about, or when, still seems a bit ambiguous. But obviously this book is another step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation, and probably will push me a bit more to read the book. I&#8217;m glad to hear that it&#8217;s not an all-out call to vegan conversion &#8211; as I think JSF recognized, it&#8217;s tough to convince people if you preach to hard.<br />
Having said that &#8211; and in order to complicate my own comment &#8211; I think he might be wrong that people &#8220;are turned off&#8221; by black-and-white scenarios. I&#8217;d wager that actually, that&#8217;s exactly when people will start paying attention: the &#8220;either we continue and die, or stop and live&#8221; situation. How that comes about, or when, still seems a bit ambiguous. But obviously this book is another step.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Apple Buzz &#171; Runner&#8217;s Kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Apple Buzz &#171; Runner&#8217;s Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Katie Drummond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Drummond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd: the book is definitely worth a read, so move it up on the pile for sure. 

His book definitely makes the battle lines clear - but the 99.9% issue is a very important one, that, he points out, essentially necessitates a genuine rethinking of how we conceive of, and treat, non-human animals. 

My own values in this regard are more unconventional, I acknowledge. I just hope his book spurs more discussion and research. 

And KFC: the laundry list of sickening practices becomes longer every day...It&#039;s rather difficult to imagine. And that &quot;difficult to imagine&quot; part is, I think, what forces people to turn a blind eye to ALL of these issues, so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd: the book is definitely worth a read, so move it up on the pile for sure. </p>
<p>His book definitely makes the battle lines clear &#8211; but the 99.9% issue is a very important one, that, he points out, essentially necessitates a genuine rethinking of how we conceive of, and treat, non-human animals. </p>
<p>My own values in this regard are more unconventional, I acknowledge. I just hope his book spurs more discussion and research. </p>
<p>And KFC: the laundry list of sickening practices becomes longer every day&#8230;It&#8217;s rather difficult to imagine. And that &#8220;difficult to imagine&#8221; part is, I think, what forces people to turn a blind eye to ALL of these issues, so often.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Essig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Essig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done, Katie. I always enjoy your e-interviews. I&#039;ve got his book in my &quot;to-read&quot; pile and will move it up. 

FYI, I heard JSF interviewed on Brian Leher this morning (for non-NYers, he has a talk show on WNYC). He stressed that his battle is with factory farms, not with sustainable, local farms. But he acknowledged that 99.9% of the world&#039;s meat comes from factory farms so that is where the story needs to be told. He even talked about the values overlap between vegans and those who only eat meat products from farms they know and visit. He was clear: No supermarket meat, no restaurant meat, and watch out for marketing nonesense like KFC having a board to protect animal rights when those sitting are the board overseeing practices are the very same suppliers processing 1 billion chickens a year to KFC. Yuck.

While I&#039;m with those who would want genuinely local, sustainable to be college students&#039; aspirational identity, vegetarian is a good start in getting people not to buy supermarket meat. And a little agreement is always better than none.  I&#039;m looking forward to his story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done, Katie. I always enjoy your e-interviews. I&#8217;ve got his book in my &#8220;to-read&#8221; pile and will move it up. </p>
<p>FYI, I heard JSF interviewed on Brian Leher this morning (for non-NYers, he has a talk show on WNYC). He stressed that his battle is with factory farms, not with sustainable, local farms. But he acknowledged that 99.9% of the world&#8217;s meat comes from factory farms so that is where the story needs to be told. He even talked about the values overlap between vegans and those who only eat meat products from farms they know and visit. He was clear: No supermarket meat, no restaurant meat, and watch out for marketing nonesense like KFC having a board to protect animal rights when those sitting are the board overseeing practices are the very same suppliers processing 1 billion chickens a year to KFC. Yuck.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m with those who would want genuinely local, sustainable to be college students&#8217; aspirational identity, vegetarian is a good start in getting people not to buy supermarket meat. And a little agreement is always better than none.  I&#8217;m looking forward to his story.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Drummond</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/katiedrummond/2009/11/02/eating-animals-jonathan-safran-foer/comment-page-1/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Drummond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick: I definitely liked Foer&#039;s approach - I&#039;ve not seen a storytelling method used to navigate these complex and very hard issues before. But, I think with issues as important as these, sometimes you just need to swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes. 

That said, if people read the book and start asking questions, read more (Gary Francione&#039;s work, in my opinion, is the definitive guide to animal rights), then I can&#039;t complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick: I definitely liked Foer&#8217;s approach &#8211; I&#8217;ve not seen a storytelling method used to navigate these complex and very hard issues before. But, I think with issues as important as these, sometimes you just need to swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes. </p>
<p>That said, if people read the book and start asking questions, read more (Gary Francione&#8217;s work, in my opinion, is the definitive guide to animal rights), then I can&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Drummond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Drummond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right on with the idea that the book offers a more &quot;reader-friendly&quot; approach to some of these hard truths. I think my biggest hope is that people read JSF&#039;s book and then go read more, do their own research, ask questions, etc. 

I&#039;ll be giving the book to a few family members who&#039;ve found other books &quot;too dense&quot; and then talking to them about the content and the ideas. I think the discussion post-read is actually more important than the actual reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right on with the idea that the book offers a more &#8220;reader-friendly&#8221; approach to some of these hard truths. I think my biggest hope is that people read JSF&#8217;s book and then go read more, do their own research, ask questions, etc. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be giving the book to a few family members who&#8217;ve found other books &#8220;too dense&#8221; and then talking to them about the content and the ideas. I think the discussion post-read is actually more important than the actual reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Obourn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Obourn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie,

Well done on pushing Safron Foer a bit. I have not read his book yet, but I imagine that it is an important work in the direction of changing people&#039;s minds about consuming meat. I am not a vegetarian, and so I may be guilty of being a hypocrite, but i do believe that one of the best ways to get people to listen to a message is by speaking to them with a concerned voice one can relate to, i.e. that of a father. It tends to go down better than messages associated with specific political or biased associations, which can make people pull back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie,</p>
<p>Well done on pushing Safron Foer a bit. I have not read his book yet, but I imagine that it is an important work in the direction of changing people&#8217;s minds about consuming meat. I am not a vegetarian, and so I may be guilty of being a hypocrite, but i do believe that one of the best ways to get people to listen to a message is by speaking to them with a concerned voice one can relate to, i.e. that of a father. It tends to go down better than messages associated with specific political or biased associations, which can make people pull back.</p>
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		<title>By: lilbirdblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilbirdblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Katie, I am so glad I read your review/interview. 

Before reading the first review my hopes were to give the book to a few select friends &amp; family, that are not vegan, so they could get a better understanding of the world around them.  I read N.Portman&#039;s review and thought maybe the book might go too far. I don&#039;t want to turn people off and I really want them to read the book (and think about what they are reading).

I think the true hard facts are too &quot;hard&quot; for people to grasp and it just gets their guard up (heck, me being vegan pisses people off, go figure)  This sounds like it might just be enough info, and done in the right way, to not turn people off.
I&#039;m eager to read it and hopefully give it to a few family members at xmas.

Remember....slow and steady wins the race :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Katie, I am so glad I read your review/interview. </p>
<p>Before reading the first review my hopes were to give the book to a few select friends &amp; family, that are not vegan, so they could get a better understanding of the world around them.  I read N.Portman&#8217;s review and thought maybe the book might go too far. I don&#8217;t want to turn people off and I really want them to read the book (and think about what they are reading).</p>
<p>I think the true hard facts are too &#8220;hard&#8221; for people to grasp and it just gets their guard up (heck, me being vegan pisses people off, go figure)  This sounds like it might just be enough info, and done in the right way, to not turn people off.<br />
I&#8217;m eager to read it and hopefully give it to a few family members at xmas.</p>
<p>Remember&#8230;.slow and steady wins the race <img src='http://trueslant.com/katiedrummond/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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