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	<title>Comments on: Taxpayers Make 23% On Goldman TARP Repayment</title>
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		<title>By: mtbgtr</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>mtbgtr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the American taxpayer turned a tidy profit on the deal.&quot;

I know of no taxpayer who will be getting a check in the mail from the gub&#039;ment as a result of this supposed 23% payback, nor any jobs being created either. So what was your point again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the American taxpayer turned a tidy profit on the deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know of no taxpayer who will be getting a check in the mail from the gub&#8217;ment as a result of this supposed 23% payback, nor any jobs being created either. So what was your point again?</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Hennessy</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Hennessy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, we should have ditched all the Goldman alums from treasury and the fed, and had Warren Buffett negotiate terms instead, he seems to have driven a much harder bargain with these thieves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, we should have ditched all the Goldman alums from treasury and the fed, and had Warren Buffett negotiate terms instead, he seems to have driven a much harder bargain with these thieves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lann</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>lann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate this &quot;sharkdb&quot; comment and I am ready to dig a bit more, but where?  I don&#039;t know about regurgitating, sounds unpleasant, but I, as are others, am limited by the info that is made available to those of us who do not receive any quarterly statements from any entity on the market.  Should I read Bloomberg?  Or, TrueSlant?  Or, the New York Times? . . .point me in the direction and I will gladly read.  That doesn&#039;t mean that I will comprehend but I will try.  I think most of us are deficient in our knowledge of the market and especially just exactly what is going on.  Now, this comment is intriguing to me.  I am thinking that sharkdb is someone who is really in the know and willing to tell us the truth - that we are all in a slow motion total crash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate this &#8220;sharkdb&#8221; comment and I am ready to dig a bit more, but where?  I don&#8217;t know about regurgitating, sounds unpleasant, but I, as are others, am limited by the info that is made available to those of us who do not receive any quarterly statements from any entity on the market.  Should I read Bloomberg?  Or, TrueSlant?  Or, the New York Times? . . .point me in the direction and I will gladly read.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that I will comprehend but I will try.  I think most of us are deficient in our knowledge of the market and especially just exactly what is going on.  Now, this comment is intriguing to me.  I am thinking that sharkdb is someone who is really in the know and willing to tell us the truth &#8211; that we are all in a slow motion total crash.</p>
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		<title>By: sharkdb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>sharkdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weak... read, learn, and think more before you blog.  You must dig a bit more to gain any credibility.  Anybody can regurgitate mainstream media and blurt out its merely obvious conclusion.

Sell all GS stock shares quickly... It will be worthless by the end of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weak&#8230; read, learn, and think more before you blog.  You must dig a bit more to gain any credibility.  Anybody can regurgitate mainstream media and blurt out its merely obvious conclusion.</p>
<p>Sell all GS stock shares quickly&#8230; It will be worthless by the end of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mish</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Mish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on when Goldman plans on paying back all the money they got outside of TARP? Or when they plan on hittin&#039; the rest of the country back for, you know, playing a major role in bringing down the national economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on when Goldman plans on paying back all the money they got outside of TARP? Or when they plan on hittin&#8217; the rest of the country back for, you know, playing a major role in bringing down the national economy?</p>
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		<title>By: lann</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/justingardner/2009/07/24/taxpayers-make-23-on-goldman-tarp-repayment/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>lann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who can criticize a company for paying back what it owes?  But there is something intrinsically, ethically questionable about our government paying over these huge sums of money to these favored entities.  The US government made the deal without letting anyone vote, they took this extraordinary action of the historic bailouts.  We will not know the true consequences of this anytime soon.  And, even though GS paid back the money plus the 23%, is that all it takes to clear itself of the self-dealing, for the insiders of their firm embedded in our government, for creating, at least in part, the very crisis that required the huge bailout.  And no answer for AIG or the sums GS received at the discount window of the Fed.  These people at GS are receiving special treatment that no ordinary citizen ever receives, why is that right?  How is this capitalism, if we buy them out of their failures?   If Bernard Madoff paid everything back with some interest would we think he should not be punished for his criminal acts, his scam?  I don&#039;t think this is a success story for those who are still out of their homes, perhaps their jobs, and who must struggle onward with little to no hope that in their lifetime they will ever see the sums of money that the employees of GS will receive.  What in the world have they done to deserve a 900k bonus?  That we accept that level for a one-time pay as reasonable compensation (for three months work?) is another problem here.  Do we want to perpetuate the image we are developing or may already have established:  America-the land of Greed and Cruelty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who can criticize a company for paying back what it owes?  But there is something intrinsically, ethically questionable about our government paying over these huge sums of money to these favored entities.  The US government made the deal without letting anyone vote, they took this extraordinary action of the historic bailouts.  We will not know the true consequences of this anytime soon.  And, even though GS paid back the money plus the 23%, is that all it takes to clear itself of the self-dealing, for the insiders of their firm embedded in our government, for creating, at least in part, the very crisis that required the huge bailout.  And no answer for AIG or the sums GS received at the discount window of the Fed.  These people at GS are receiving special treatment that no ordinary citizen ever receives, why is that right?  How is this capitalism, if we buy them out of their failures?   If Bernard Madoff paid everything back with some interest would we think he should not be punished for his criminal acts, his scam?  I don&#8217;t think this is a success story for those who are still out of their homes, perhaps their jobs, and who must struggle onward with little to no hope that in their lifetime they will ever see the sums of money that the employees of GS will receive.  What in the world have they done to deserve a 900k bonus?  That we accept that level for a one-time pay as reasonable compensation (for three months work?) is another problem here.  Do we want to perpetuate the image we are developing or may already have established:  America-the land of Greed and Cruelty?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Smalera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Smalera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is honestly besides the point. Goldman never needed TARP, and of course they know how to make money on capital. There are plenty of other banks out there who need the funds and won&#039;t be able to repay for years. This is like the bare minimum Goldman could&#039;ve done, but it look so great compared to all the other screwups that it&#039;s impossible to fault them for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is honestly besides the point. Goldman never needed TARP, and of course they know how to make money on capital. There are plenty of other banks out there who need the funds and won&#8217;t be able to repay for years. This is like the bare minimum Goldman could&#8217;ve done, but it look so great compared to all the other screwups that it&#8217;s impossible to fault them for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia Deutsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to say if TARP will actually make money,  or if it was a best-use case for existing funds. After all, we don&#039;t know the opportunity costs -- what else might that trillion have been spent on? -- or what the consequences of letting the system collapse might have been.  But the Goldman repayment -- and, I hope, many subsequent repayments -- proves that it wasn&#039;t simply a handout, another way to permanently transfer wealth to the rich. And that&#039;s what I found so heartening about the payback -- and why I don&#039;t begrudge Goldman its profitable quarter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to say if TARP will actually make money,  or if it was a best-use case for existing funds. After all, we don&#8217;t know the opportunity costs &#8212; what else might that trillion have been spent on? &#8212; or what the consequences of letting the system collapse might have been.  But the Goldman repayment &#8212; and, I hope, many subsequent repayments &#8212; proves that it wasn&#8217;t simply a handout, another way to permanently transfer wealth to the rich. And that&#8217;s what I found so heartening about the payback &#8212; and why I don&#8217;t begrudge Goldman its profitable quarter</p>
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		<title>By: freedum</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What crisis are we in again?? I just read an article that we are paying the Palestines $200 Million tomorrow ,out of the $900 million they/we promised at the convention because of their budget shortfalls.  Another article was about the stimulis money. Only $12million was paid out so far in the 6 mos that the Dems been in office. Thats way less than 1% they promissed to pay us. SHOW ME THE MONEY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What crisis are we in again?? I just read an article that we are paying the Palestines $200 Million tomorrow ,out of the $900 million they/we promised at the convention because of their budget shortfalls.  Another article was about the stimulis money. Only $12million was paid out so far in the 6 mos that the Dems been in office. Thats way less than 1% they promissed to pay us. SHOW ME THE MONEY.</p>
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		<title>By: lann</title>
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		<dc:creator>lann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is difficult to muster enthusiasm for this headline.  In spite of Goldman&#039;s apparently mind-boggling profits (in only three months) and now its announced expectation of repaying the US government a grand sum for the bailout, the rest of us, the taxpayers, or whoever, are just barely making it.  Many are still drowning in the wake of the economic crisis.  What if, while people were still on their rooftops in New Orleans during Katrina, the government announced that the company that built the levees (I know that was a govt. agency but just substitute a private one for purposes of this point) just made a huge profit and would pay its employees incredible bonuses for their work and plan to pay the government some money too?  Would that make those going down, go with a smile on their faces, content with knowing that those who built the very thing that destroyed their way of life are making huge profits off the crisis-generated government handouts?  It seems fairly comparable to allowing the infamous Madoff pay a huge fine and continue business as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is difficult to muster enthusiasm for this headline.  In spite of Goldman&#8217;s apparently mind-boggling profits (in only three months) and now its announced expectation of repaying the US government a grand sum for the bailout, the rest of us, the taxpayers, or whoever, are just barely making it.  Many are still drowning in the wake of the economic crisis.  What if, while people were still on their rooftops in New Orleans during Katrina, the government announced that the company that built the levees (I know that was a govt. agency but just substitute a private one for purposes of this point) just made a huge profit and would pay its employees incredible bonuses for their work and plan to pay the government some money too?  Would that make those going down, go with a smile on their faces, content with knowing that those who built the very thing that destroyed their way of life are making huge profits off the crisis-generated government handouts?  It seems fairly comparable to allowing the infamous Madoff pay a huge fine and continue business as usual.</p>
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