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Jun. 10 2010 - 4:40 pm | 311 views | 0 recommendations | 3 comments

Lindsey Graham kinda, sorta believes in Climate Change, if you do, he guesses

Yesterday, Kate Shepard over at Mother Jones attempted to figure out what the hell Lindsey Graham (R-SC) thinks about Climate Change this week.  She had, uh, very little luck, because his position is completely incoherent.  Here’s further proof that we’re a nation of children ruled by liars.

You know what, before we even get all the way into Graham’s position (sexy!), it’s worth remembering that Americans are actually losing belief in Climate Change science.  I haven’t seen any polls taken since the BP oil spill, but, generally speaking, shoddy journalism and massive campaigning by Climate Change deniers is having an effect.  That, coupled with the fact that the House already passed the Waxman-Markey climate bill — which is only good until January 2011, the end of the current Congressional session — make it more important than ever to pass some kind of climate legislation in the Senate.

After spending much of this year helping draft a climate bill with Sad John Kerry and Sour Patch Kid Joe Lieberman, Graham announced yesterday that he will be voting against his own bill.  Then, yesterday, he got all “well no one really knows anything, right, when you think about it” at a press conference with Dicky Lugar.  Oh, and Graham also said he’d be supporting Lugar’s engery bill, which doesn’t contain any provisions for capping carbon emissions.  If it all sounds confusing, well, welcome to the party, drinks are in the corner.

Passing it off to Shepard now, for the finger roll.

Reporters asked Graham several times about why he was supporting Lugar’s bill, when just a few months ago he had argued that the Senate shouldn’t pass a “half-assed” bill that lacked hard restrictions on carbon emissions. Graham replied that he now doesn’t think pricing carbon is that important. “The science about global warming has changed,” he noted, offhandedly. “I think they’ve oversold this stuff, quite frankly. I think they’ve been alarmist and the science is in question,” Graham told reporters.

So, so, so, Graham doesn’t believe in the science behind the bill he was writing.  Ha.  We went on to give what Shepard referred to as a “humdinger” of an explanation of his belief about Climate Change.

It’s not a stretch to say that what goes into the air is contributing to global warming, but I don’t want to be in the camp that says I know people in Northern Virginia will never see snow. At the end of the day, I think carbon pollution is worthy of being controlled, whether you believe in global warming or not.

He goes on, and it isn’t pretty.  Here’s that Shepard link again, for the full response.


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    Perhaps you missed the other day’s NYT op-ed, “The Climate Majority”:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/opinion/09krosnick.html?ref=opinion

    Your “belief is dropping” link was to your post about AGW-positive responses dropping from 80 to 72%.

    The recent poll in the NYT op-ed comes in at 74%. That still isn’t “80″ either, but it’s pretty close to the margin of error for these things. And the op-ed is about how the question asked can skew the perceived answer significantly.

    The thing is, 74% agreement on anything in this polarized age is really very good. Politicians should be heading for the hills.

    Oh, wait…there were similar numbers for health care reform.

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      I did not see the op-ed you linked to. Thanks for that. I don’t think it changes the general point that at least recently climate change skepticism was growing, which I think you would agree is a negative trend. Maybe the deniers aren’t being as successful as possible, but any downward movement is bad. If that movement reverses, fantastic.

      Also, the fact that the House bill will expire in January 2011 and there’s no reason to think the next Congress will be more progressive on climate change (quite the opposite). That’s why Graham’s nonsensical “position” deserves to be mocked.

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        Yeah. My fingers are crossed that it is not a “trend” but a “dip” that we’ll come out of as the ‘climategate’ crap recedes into the distance and is gradually buried under the weight of the (much, much, less prominently-covered) commissions and studies and so forth that declare the “trick” to be an ordinary data-reduction technique and so forth.

        Also, there’s the ongoing drumbeat of new studies that gradually convinced the scientists themselves over previous decades and have slowly pulled the public acceptance up to that 72/74/80 % over the last decade or so.

        With that kind of support, it’s time to do more than mock the Graham’s in congress, it’s time to start collecting money to throw them out of work.

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