Comments on: Halftime in Copenhagen: what to expect in week two http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/2009/12/13/halftime-in-copenhagen-what-to-expect-in-week-two/ News and comment on the environment and other underdogs. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:36:20 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: African nations force binding emission reductions back on the table - Jeff McMahon - Scorched Earth - True/Slant http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/2009/12/13/halftime-in-copenhagen-what-to-expect-in-week-two/comment-page-1/#comment-717 African nations force binding emission reductions back on the table - Jeff McMahon - Scorched Earth - True/Slant Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:15:25 +0000 http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/?p=2715#comment-717 [...] the UN Climate Change Conference, had called an informal session for Monday morning on some of the most difficult issues facing the 192 nations assembled here: emission-reduction levels for each nation and financing for [...] [...] the UN Climate Change Conference, had called an informal session for Monday morning on some of the most difficult issues facing the 192 nations assembled here: emission-reduction levels for each nation and financing for [...]

]]> By: Jeff McMahon http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/2009/12/13/halftime-in-copenhagen-what-to-expect-in-week-two/comment-page-1/#comment-710 Jeff McMahon Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:31:10 +0000 http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/?p=2715#comment-710 Andy, the protesters are not on your team. If we can generalize the crowd, they're substantially greener than the delegates inside the hall. Many are seeking an end to capitalism, and they see this conference as capitalism capitalizing on the pollution it has created. There was a counter-protest on Saturday from the right. Their slogan was "CO2=Life!" There were perhaps 20 of them, and the Danes politely made room for them to pass as they marched up and down the Strøget, Copenhagen's car-free zone, otherwise attracting little attention. Andy, the protesters are not on your team. If we can generalize the crowd, they’re substantially greener than the delegates inside the hall. Many are seeking an end to capitalism, and they see this conference as capitalism capitalizing on the pollution it has created.

There was a counter-protest on Saturday from the right. Their slogan was “CO2=Life!” There were perhaps 20 of them, and the Danes politely made room for them to pass as they marched up and down the Strøget, Copenhagen’s car-free zone, otherwise attracting little attention.

]]> By: andylevinson http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/2009/12/13/halftime-in-copenhagen-what-to-expect-in-week-two/comment-page-1/#comment-709 andylevinson Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:44:04 +0000 http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/?p=2715#comment-709 Hopefully, after the halftime, the protesters will push the entire Conference of Klimate Kooks into the sea....along with the Klimate Kestapo they have arresting peace loving protesters Hopefully, after the halftime, the protesters will push the entire Conference of Klimate Kooks
into the sea….along with the Klimate Kestapo they have arresting peace loving protesters

]]> By: bobshanbrom http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/2009/12/13/halftime-in-copenhagen-what-to-expect-in-week-two/comment-page-1/#comment-708 bobshanbrom Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:03:42 +0000 http://trueslant.com/jeffmcmahon/?p=2715#comment-708 With nearly half its productivity going to exports, let's remember that China, largely, is little more than the world's tailpipe, economically-speaking. US domestic consumption is about $12 trillion, China's about $1.5 trillion. In other words, the average American is responsible for 35 times the ghge as the average Chinese. Something has to account for this disparity, but will the Chinese energy-density proposal do that PLUS achieve the 2050 emissions goal? Seems to me the US has to agree to do everything Europeans agree to do times two to get our ghge per person down to EU per person levels. How would we get to a place where everyone on Earth had an equal ghge allotment AND that level were a safe one? Copenhagen II, Copenhagen III, IV? With nearly half its productivity going to exports, let’s remember that China, largely, is little more than the world’s tailpipe, economically-speaking. US domestic consumption is about $12 trillion, China’s about $1.5 trillion. In other words, the average American is responsible for 35 times the ghge as the average Chinese.
Something has to account for this disparity, but will the Chinese energy-density proposal do that PLUS achieve the 2050 emissions goal?
Seems to me the US has to agree to do everything Europeans agree to do times two to get our ghge per person down to EU per person levels.
How would we get to a place where everyone on Earth had an equal ghge allotment AND that level were a safe one? Copenhagen II, Copenhagen III, IV?

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