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	<title>Comments on: Wyden-Bennett is dead, long live Wyden-Bennett</title>
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		<title>By: Why I am Not a Conservative &#124; American Times</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-3660</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I am Not a Conservative &#124; American Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while I think there&#8217;s a great deal of merit to competition (one reason I really liked Ron Wyden’s healthcare plan!), free markets, economic liberalism and so forth I find the fetishization of low taxes among the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while I think there&#8217;s a great deal of merit to competition (one reason I really liked Ron Wyden’s healthcare plan!), free markets, economic liberalism and so forth I find the fetishization of low taxes among the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I am Not a Conservative</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-3656</link>
		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I am Not a Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while I think there&#8217;s a great deal of merit to competition (one reason I really liked Ron Wyden&#8217;s healthcare plan!), free markets, economic liberalism and so forth I find the fetishization of low taxes among the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while I think there&#8217;s a great deal of merit to competition (one reason I really liked Ron Wyden&#8217;s healthcare plan!), free markets, economic liberalism and so forth I find the fetishization of low taxes among the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We Are Experiencing Institutional Difficulties &#171; The United States of Jamerica</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>We Are Experiencing Institutional Difficulties &#171; The United States of Jamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an incredible distortionary effect on policy-making.  Lately, quite a few conservative reformers (like our own E.D. Kain) have lambasted Democrats for not supporting measures like Wyden-Bennet in health care (which would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an incredible distortionary effect on policy-making.  Lately, quite a few conservative reformers (like our own E.D. Kain) have lambasted Democrats for not supporting measures like Wyden-Bennet in health care (which would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Poverty Count Means More Expensive Reform</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>New Poverty Count Means More Expensive Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be honest about its actual cost.  And if they’re really savvy, they should think about adding in Ron Wyden’s Free Choice proposal, which could have a cost-bending effect on all of this, possibly making this a moot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be honest about its actual cost.  And if they’re really savvy, they should think about adding in Ron Wyden’s Free Choice proposal, which could have a cost-bending effect on all of this, possibly making this a moot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Poverty guidelines and the costs of health care reform &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Poverty guidelines and the costs of health care reform &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about its actual cost.  And if they&#8217;re really savvy, they should think about adding in Ron Wyden&#8217;s Free Choice proposal, which could have a cost-bending effect on all of this, possibly making this a moot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about its actual cost.  And if they&#8217;re really savvy, they should think about adding in Ron Wyden&#8217;s Free Choice proposal, which could have a cost-bending effect on all of this, possibly making this a moot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain - American Tory &#8211; New Census poverty numbers could lead to more expensive health care costs - True/Slant</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain - American Tory &#8211; New Census poverty numbers could lead to more expensive health care costs - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All the more reason to add further cost-saving measures to the final bill, like a certain Free Choice Act I&#8217;ve talked about previously. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All the more reason to add further cost-saving measures to the final bill, like a certain Free Choice Act I&#8217;ve talked about previously. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/erikkain/2009/10/21/wyden-bennett-is-dead-long-live-wyden-bennett/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can lay this at the feet of the health care industry for whom such a wholesale change in how insurance is sold would be disruptive, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can lay this at the feet of the health care industry for whom such a wholesale change in how insurance is sold would be disruptive, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a shift for the American public, and therefore it then becomes that for the politicians. But politicians usually don&#039;t care until the public cares because they have to focus their energies of the issues that will win the most votes. At least that&#039;s what the cynical side of me says. :-)

And that&#039;s probably why you haven&#039;t seen Republicans proposing this legislation although it would make a TON of sense and is vastly more bipartisan than the current legislation. Instead they&#039;re pretty much only offering opposition. A shame, but there it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a shift for the American public, and therefore it then becomes that for the politicians. But politicians usually don&#8217;t care until the public cares because they have to focus their energies of the issues that will win the most votes. At least that&#8217;s what the cynical side of me says. <img src='http://trueslant.com/erikkain/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s probably why you haven&#8217;t seen Republicans proposing this legislation although it would make a TON of sense and is vastly more bipartisan than the current legislation. Instead they&#8217;re pretty much only offering opposition. A shame, but there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: trueblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>trueblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One issue with allowing everyone to opt into the public option is the dramatic increase in premiums for small businesses who would lose employees to the public option.


A few years ago I worked for a small firm.  We had 10 people (some with family plans) on our health insurance plan.  Two employees were considering the family plan offered by our employer, but declined because they had better options elsewhere.  Their decisions to not go with our plan increased my monthly premium (single coverage) from $250 to $500.  This is a ridiculous increase; the insurer doesn&#039;t spread its risk over our 10/12 employees but over the 500,000 (or whatever) people insured in our state.  But they charged us as if they were only insuring the 10 of us.


I am sure that one of the reasons for the big increase is that the insurance broker is paid a large commission for &quot;selling&quot; our account.  A few employees more or less can make a big difference in whether that commission (plus the insurer&#039;s other costs and profits) is fully covered by our premiums.  


As with the subprime mortgage mess, a lot of the problem with our insurance industry has to do with the fact that the principal (the bank, the insurance company) doesn&#039;t pay employees to sell the product (mortgage, insurance plan) to the end customer, but pays a large commission to someone with no skin in the game.  


(As a side note, the insurance broker for my firm actually told us that we would have certain coverage, even though the insurance policy contract stated clearly that that was not the case.  Given that we were a firm of lawyers, you would think this woman would not have the gall to lie to us when we clearly knew she was lying. And you wonder why this situation is such a mess...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One issue with allowing everyone to opt into the public option is the dramatic increase in premiums for small businesses who would lose employees to the public option.</p>
<p>A few years ago I worked for a small firm.  We had 10 people (some with family plans) on our health insurance plan.  Two employees were considering the family plan offered by our employer, but declined because they had better options elsewhere.  Their decisions to not go with our plan increased my monthly premium (single coverage) from $250 to $500.  This is a ridiculous increase; the insurer doesn&#8217;t spread its risk over our 10/12 employees but over the 500,000 (or whatever) people insured in our state.  But they charged us as if they were only insuring the 10 of us.</p>
<p>I am sure that one of the reasons for the big increase is that the insurance broker is paid a large commission for &#8220;selling&#8221; our account.  A few employees more or less can make a big difference in whether that commission (plus the insurer&#8217;s other costs and profits) is fully covered by our premiums.  </p>
<p>As with the subprime mortgage mess, a lot of the problem with our insurance industry has to do with the fact that the principal (the bank, the insurance company) doesn&#8217;t pay employees to sell the product (mortgage, insurance plan) to the end customer, but pays a large commission to someone with no skin in the game.  </p>
<p>(As a side note, the insurance broker for my firm actually told us that we would have certain coverage, even though the insurance policy contract stated clearly that that was not the case.  Given that we were a firm of lawyers, you would think this woman would not have the gall to lie to us when we clearly knew she was lying. And you wonder why this situation is such a mess&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin - I remember that post.  That was good stuff, and not just because I&#039;m quoted either :)

I wonder though, is it too much of a seismic shift for the American public, or too much of a seismic shift for the political class?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin &#8211; I remember that post.  That was good stuff, and not just because I&#8217;m quoted either <img src='http://trueslant.com/erikkain/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wonder though, is it too much of a seismic shift for the American public, or too much of a seismic shift for the political class?</p>
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