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		<title>By: The Black Side: It&#8217;s Been a Year Since Obama Ended Racism &#124; Tainted Saints</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/eliemystal/2009/07/22/gatesgate-racism-101/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>The Black Side: It&#8217;s Been a Year Since Obama Ended Racism &#124; Tainted Saints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has seemed to vanish. Nobody ever questions my credentials or intellect anymore. I get along fabulously with police officers. And Obama even won a Nobel Peace Prize which allowed the entire country to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elie Mystal - The Black Side &#8211; It&#8217;s Been a Year Since Obama Ended Racism in America - True/Slant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elie Mystal - The Black Side &#8211; It&#8217;s Been a Year Since Obama Ended Racism in America - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has seemed to vanish. Nobody ever questions my credentials or intellect anymore. I get along fabulously with police officers. And Obama even won a Nobel Peace Prize which allowed the entire country to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elie Mystal - The Black Side - Gatesgate: Let&#8217;s Go To The Audio Tape - True/Slant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elie Mystal - The Black Side - Gatesgate: Let&#8217;s Go To The Audio Tape - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I suggested that we should take a closer look at the lady &#8212; who has now been identified as Lucia Whalen [...]</description>
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		<title>By: caroaber</title>
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		<dc:creator>caroaber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Black woman and a law enforcement officer. While I regret that this incident resulted in the arrest of a law-abiding citizen, Prof. Gates had a role in the outcome, and the passage of time is only magnifying how great that role was. I mean, &quot;your mamma&quot;?? That was not appropriate colloquy for this situation. (Really, Skip. LOL.)

The neighbor is not at fault for calling in what she thought was a crime in progress. And it&#039;s worth noting that the cab driver was not taken into custody. But I do agree that once Skip Gates provided his I.D. and established his lawful presence there, the matter should have been closed. So why wasn&#039;t it? We had a clash of egos, and the reports say that Gates was raising his voice. (This is protected free speech-- while inside your home. But Skip got baited into walking outside, and presto! Now he was causing a &quot;public disturbance.&quot; )

Sgt. Crowley had the discretion to close the case and walk away. He didn&#039;t. Instead he called for backup. I still fault him for that decision, but this is just one person&#039;s opinion. But the inference is that he was protecting, and I do question the need to haul away a disabled 58 y.o. from his own house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Black woman and a law enforcement officer. While I regret that this incident resulted in the arrest of a law-abiding citizen, Prof. Gates had a role in the outcome, and the passage of time is only magnifying how great that role was. I mean, &#8220;your mamma&#8221;?? That was not appropriate colloquy for this situation. (Really, Skip. LOL.)</p>
<p>The neighbor is not at fault for calling in what she thought was a crime in progress. And it&#8217;s worth noting that the cab driver was not taken into custody. But I do agree that once Skip Gates provided his I.D. and established his lawful presence there, the matter should have been closed. So why wasn&#8217;t it? We had a clash of egos, and the reports say that Gates was raising his voice. (This is protected free speech&#8211; while inside your home. But Skip got baited into walking outside, and presto! Now he was causing a &#8220;public disturbance.&#8221; )</p>
<p>Sgt. Crowley had the discretion to close the case and walk away. He didn&#8217;t. Instead he called for backup. I still fault him for that decision, but this is just one person&#8217;s opinion. But the inference is that he was protecting, and I do question the need to haul away a disabled 58 y.o. from his own house.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Stephney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Stephney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Professor Ogletree prevails in litigating against the Cambridge Police Department in order to institute racial sensitivity training, we may wind up back at square one on this issue:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/24/cambridge_police_chief_backs_sergeant_but_promises_review_of_gates_arrest/?page=3

&quot;...Amid the crossfire of opinions, Crowley continued to earn praise from all quarters of the law enforcement community.

He was so highly regarded by the prior police commissioner in Cambridge that he has spent the past five years teaching a class at the Lowell Police Academy to Cambridge and Lowell police cadets about how to avoid racial profiling, according to Thomas Fleming, academy director.

Fleming said the former Cambridge police commissioner, Ronnie Watson, handpicked Crowley and another officer, who is black, to jointly teach the class to about 60 cadets each year. The course meets four times a year, for three hours a session.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Professor Ogletree prevails in litigating against the Cambridge Police Department in order to institute racial sensitivity training, we may wind up back at square one on this issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/24/cambridge_police_chief_backs_sergeant_but_promises_review_of_gates_arrest/?page=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/24/cambridge_police_chief_backs_sergeant_but_promises_review_of_gates_arrest/?page=3</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Amid the crossfire of opinions, Crowley continued to earn praise from all quarters of the law enforcement community.</p>
<p>He was so highly regarded by the prior police commissioner in Cambridge that he has spent the past five years teaching a class at the Lowell Police Academy to Cambridge and Lowell police cadets about how to avoid racial profiling, according to Thomas Fleming, academy director.</p>
<p>Fleming said the former Cambridge police commissioner, Ronnie Watson, handpicked Crowley and another officer, who is black, to jointly teach the class to about 60 cadets each year. The course meets four times a year, for three hours a session.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Afi Scruggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afi Scruggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve linked to the police report at www.trueslant.com/aoscruggs. 

Read it and come to your own conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve linked to the police report at <a href="http://www.trueslant.com/aoscruggs" rel="nofollow">http://www.trueslant.com/aoscruggs</a>. </p>
<p>Read it and come to your own conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Flores</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Flores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not denying the racial issue here, I think it has to do more with the cops than the lady that called. The police officers are the ones that mishandled the situation, so I agree with Rick&#039;s original assessment of the white lady getting some harsh criticism. Whether in broad daylight or at night, in a car or in a tank, citizens witnessing a possible crime are advised by the police not to get involved. I believe the woman did the right thing in calling the police immediately when she believed a crime was taking place - that she described them as black is a matter of circumstance. One must assume that she believed a crime was genuinely taking place and the risk of ascertaining that fact is greater than making a simple phone call. Even President Barack Obama describes the chain of events up to this point &quot;so far, so good.&quot; I agree.

What really bothers me, according to what I&#039;ve heard and read, is that when the police arrived and Gates was able to prove, with his ID, that it was his home, he was still arrested for disorderly conduct. The police are the real problem.

Let&#039;s give the lady the benefit of the doubt. Let&#039;s assume that Dr. Gates wasn&#039;t at home and two thieves decided that broad daylight would be the perfect time to rob a house because no one would suspect that anyone would be stupid enough to have such bad timing. The woman has three choices with four potential consequences:

1) Yell something at them from the cab where potential criminals can shoot at the cab or run away in fear (assuming the cab wasn&#039;t moving so fast that she couldn&#039;t say anything if she wanted to)

2) Call the police and have them arrive and assess the situation since it&#039;s their job

3) Don&#039;t call and risk the possibility that someone&#039;s home is genuinely being burglarized

I think the woman made the right choice in terms of mitigating risk. It&#039;s not her fault the police decided to make an arrest and file charges after Dr. Gates proved his innocence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not denying the racial issue here, I think it has to do more with the cops than the lady that called. The police officers are the ones that mishandled the situation, so I agree with Rick&#8217;s original assessment of the white lady getting some harsh criticism. Whether in broad daylight or at night, in a car or in a tank, citizens witnessing a possible crime are advised by the police not to get involved. I believe the woman did the right thing in calling the police immediately when she believed a crime was taking place &#8211; that she described them as black is a matter of circumstance. One must assume that she believed a crime was genuinely taking place and the risk of ascertaining that fact is greater than making a simple phone call. Even President Barack Obama describes the chain of events up to this point &#8220;so far, so good.&#8221; I agree.</p>
<p>What really bothers me, according to what I&#8217;ve heard and read, is that when the police arrived and Gates was able to prove, with his ID, that it was his home, he was still arrested for disorderly conduct. The police are the real problem.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s give the lady the benefit of the doubt. Let&#8217;s assume that Dr. Gates wasn&#8217;t at home and two thieves decided that broad daylight would be the perfect time to rob a house because no one would suspect that anyone would be stupid enough to have such bad timing. The woman has three choices with four potential consequences:</p>
<p>1) Yell something at them from the cab where potential criminals can shoot at the cab or run away in fear (assuming the cab wasn&#8217;t moving so fast that she couldn&#8217;t say anything if she wanted to)</p>
<p>2) Call the police and have them arrive and assess the situation since it&#8217;s their job</p>
<p>3) Don&#8217;t call and risk the possibility that someone&#8217;s home is genuinely being burglarized</p>
<p>I think the woman made the right choice in terms of mitigating risk. It&#8217;s not her fault the police decided to make an arrest and file charges after Dr. Gates proved his innocence.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Brief: &#8220;Cambridge Police Acted Stupidly&#8221; &#124; The Stimulist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Brief: &#8220;Cambridge Police Acted Stupidly&#8221; &#124; The Stimulist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;CAMBRIDGE POLICE ACTED STUPIDLY&#8221; When asked about Skip Gates being arrested in his own home, President Obama admitted his answer would be biased—Gates is a friend—then said that the office had acted stupidly. Obama&#8217;s right, of course. But don&#8217;t underestimate the impact of a President wading into a local law enforcement issue so strongly—especially not when he does so to call the police stupid. This story ain&#8217;t over. Plus: Elie Mystal on who&#8217;s really to blame for the Gates mess—the woman who called in the complaint. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;CAMBRIDGE POLICE ACTED STUPIDLY&#8221; When asked about Skip Gates being arrested in his own home, President Obama admitted his answer would be biased—Gates is a friend—then said that the office had acted stupidly. Obama&#8217;s right, of course. But don&#8217;t underestimate the impact of a President wading into a local law enforcement issue so strongly—especially not when he does so to call the police stupid. This story ain&#8217;t over. Plus: Elie Mystal on who&#8217;s really to blame for the Gates mess—the woman who called in the complaint. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Rick. The irony is that almost certainly in the minds of the Cambridge cops, their behavior was appropriate as policemen.

What&#039;s really frightening is that like a lot of other issues in this country, there is extreme polarization. For every American who is convinced that the Cambridge cops are racist, there is another one who backs the cops 100 percent (check out some of the pro-cop comments on the Boston.com site). This is a signal that there are fears here that go way beyond the behavior of law enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Rick. The irony is that almost certainly in the minds of the Cambridge cops, their behavior was appropriate as policemen.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really frightening is that like a lot of other issues in this country, there is extreme polarization. For every American who is convinced that the Cambridge cops are racist, there is another one who backs the cops 100 percent (check out some of the pro-cop comments on the Boston.com site). This is a signal that there are fears here that go way beyond the behavior of law enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ungar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ungar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elie- In reading your comment in response to Michael Peck, I have to say that I start to get it from your point of view and why you would have good reason to see it differently than I might. 

No question that blacks are hassled, profiled and all around treated like crap by the police hugely more than a white guy in America. 

You indicated that you would want your wife to get involved from the safety of her car. I get that in the context of your own experience where the risk to you and your wife might well be greater by getting the police involved. Thus, I can see why you would feel both you and your wife might have a better ending in the situation were she to call out &quot;yo..what are you doing?&quot; before getting police involved.
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In my case, I would want my wife to keep on driving because I am more afraid of the risk to her if she has anything to do with potential bad guys than I am concerned about dealing with the police when they arrive to find that I was getting into my own house. We are both, no doubt, equally concerned about our wives safety. In your case she may be more endangered by the police while mine is more likely to be endangered by potential burglars.

So, from the cultural experience point of view, i do begin to see why your reaction would be different from my own. We do still live in two different countries. Pretty sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elie- In reading your comment in response to Michael Peck, I have to say that I start to get it from your point of view and why you would have good reason to see it differently than I might. </p>
<p>No question that blacks are hassled, profiled and all around treated like crap by the police hugely more than a white guy in America. </p>
<p>You indicated that you would want your wife to get involved from the safety of her car. I get that in the context of your own experience where the risk to you and your wife might well be greater by getting the police involved. Thus, I can see why you would feel both you and your wife might have a better ending in the situation were she to call out &#8220;yo..what are you doing?&#8221; before getting police involved.<br />
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In my case, I would want my wife to keep on driving because I am more afraid of the risk to her if she has anything to do with potential bad guys than I am concerned about dealing with the police when they arrive to find that I was getting into my own house. We are both, no doubt, equally concerned about our wives safety. In your case she may be more endangered by the police while mine is more likely to be endangered by potential burglars.</p>
<p>So, from the cultural experience point of view, i do begin to see why your reaction would be different from my own. We do still live in two different countries. Pretty sad.</p>
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