Comments on: Want health care reform? Don’t buy Wranglers http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/ Interpreting business news from a psychological and societal perspective Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:04:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Claudia Deutsch http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1119 Claudia Deutsch Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:03:28 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1119 Wouldn't it be wonderful if all of VF's shareholders were Republicans? In a perfect world, they would be. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all of VF’s shareholders were Republicans? In a perfect world, they would be.

]]> By: Claudia Deutsch http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1118 Claudia Deutsch Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:01:16 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1118 We certainly agree about socially-responsible funds. The problem, of course, is that many of them look at specific criteria, not at others. A green fund, for example, will not invest in a company that pollutes or that opposes curbs on greenhouse gases -- but probably did not check out the health care stance of each of the companies, and almost certainly did not check the stances of every company on whose board an executive sits. By the same token, the funds that in the days of apartheid refused to invest in any company that did business in South Africa probably did not check the pollution track record, or even the labor practice track record, of the companies that got a clean bill of health on the apartheid issue. We certainly agree about socially-responsible funds. The problem, of course, is that many of them look at specific criteria, not at others. A green fund, for example, will not invest in a company that pollutes or that opposes curbs on greenhouse gases — but probably did not check out the health care stance of each of the companies, and almost certainly did not check the stances of every company on whose board an executive sits. By the same token, the funds that in the days of apartheid refused to invest in any company that did business in South Africa probably did not check the pollution track record, or even the labor practice track record, of the companies that got a clean bill of health on the apartheid issue.

]]> By: fleetlee http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1117 fleetlee Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:50:38 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1117 The GOP has done a masterful job over the years of getting their people energized against anything "liberal" so why not do the same to their pocketbooks; you know how the GOP loves their money it will certainly get their attention in a hurry- great idea The GOP has done a masterful job over the years of getting their people energized against anything “liberal” so why not do the same to their pocketbooks; you know how the GOP loves their money it will certainly get their attention in a hurry- great idea

]]> By: margaretwelmanpaez http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1116 margaretwelmanpaez Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:03:32 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1116 Claudia, I guess that would depend on how much an investor wants to do in terms of his/her homework. There are socially responsible funds that out-perform Fidelity funds and the research to find those funds is fairly minimal. Ariel Appreciation fund is one of them. All the health insurance giants are opposed to health care reform because they see the cash cow that is this corrupt industry--and it is corrupt--coming to an end. Investors will have to find other ways to make money; where health and life are not a means to a profitable end. And just as Medicare and Social Security were opposed--by the same exact arguments we are hearing today--it's repeating itself but this time we're hearing it in a YouTube world. Claudia,

I guess that would depend on how much an investor wants to do in terms of his/her homework. There are socially responsible funds that out-perform Fidelity funds and the research to find those funds is fairly minimal. Ariel Appreciation fund is one of them.

All the health insurance giants are opposed to health care reform because they see the cash cow that is this corrupt industry–and it is corrupt–coming to an end. Investors will have to find other ways to make money; where health and life are not a means to a profitable end.

And just as Medicare and Social Security were opposed–by the same exact arguments we are hearing today–it’s repeating itself but this time we’re hearing it in a YouTube world.

]]> By: Claudia Deutsch http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 Claudia Deutsch Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:49:12 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1115 But how far should it go? Cigna, of course, is not the only opponent of healthcare reform. And Wiseman is the not the only director of a company opposed to said reform. By way of saying, in theory I agree that we should try to put our money into funds and companies that do not support those whose lobbying efforts run counter to the causes we support. But practically speaking, how possible is that? How much research can an investor be expected to do? Those aren't rhetorical questions, i sincerely do not know the answer to them. Ideas? But how far should it go? Cigna, of course, is not the only opponent of healthcare reform. And Wiseman is the not the only director of a company opposed to said reform.
By way of saying, in theory I agree that we should try to put our money into funds and companies that do not support those whose lobbying efforts run counter to the causes we support. But practically speaking, how possible is that? How much research can an investor be expected to do?
Those aren’t rhetorical questions, i sincerely do not know the answer to them. Ideas?

]]> By: margaretwelmanpaez http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/2009/11/27/want-health-care-reform-dont-buy-wranglers/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 margaretwelmanpaez Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:00:07 +0000 http://trueslant.com/claudiadeutsch/?p=1647#comment-1113 Wonderful idea as it may actually catch their attention. And while we're at it, I would suggest taking your investments to a company where they do not have a revolving door of CIGNA executives and where some of their funds are not heavily invested in CIGNA, like Fidelity Investments. Wonderful idea as it may actually catch their attention. And while we’re at it, I would suggest taking your investments to a company where they do not have a revolving door of CIGNA executives and where some of their funds are not heavily invested in CIGNA, like Fidelity Investments.

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