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Jun. 3 2010 - 3:00 pm | 584 views | 0 recommendations | 45 comments

Israel’s Massive Aid Deliveries to Gaza

The Canada-Israel Committee has an interesting breakdown and analysis of the massive amounts of humanitarian aid regularly delivered to Gaza by Israel: Facts Beyond the Spin: Israel Delivers Massive Aid to Gaza.

Despite the fact that Israel publicly offered to inspect and then transfer the flotilla’s aid to Gaza several days prior to the incident, many opponents of Israel are now making wild accusations that humanitarian supplies are being blocked from entering Gaza.

The facts put these charges to rest – just take a look at how much aid Israel regularly delivers to Gaza, and what it means in real terms for Gazans:

• Over one million tons of humanitarian supplies were delivered by Israel to the people of Gaza in the past 18 months – that’s equal to nearly one ton of aid for every man, woman and child in Gaza.

In the first quarter of 2010 alone (January-March), Israel delivered 94,500 tons of supplies to Gaza. It’s very easy to miss what that actually means for the people of Gaza. The breakdown includes:

• 40,000 tons of wheat – which is equal to 53 million loaves of bread;

• 2,760 tons of rice – which equals 69 million servings;

• 1,987 tons of clothes and footwear – the equivalent weight of 3.6 million pairs of jeans; and

• 553 tons of milk powder and baby food – equivalent to over 3.1 million days of formula for an average six-month-old baby.

This reflects a long-term effort on the part of Israel to deliver a massive and comprehensive supply of aid to Gaza’s civilians, while restricting the ability of Hamas to import missiles that have been launched at the cities of southern Israel. In 2009 alone:

• During the Muslim holy days of Ramadan and Eid al-Adha, Israel shipped some 11,000 head of cattle into Gaza – enough to provide 8.8 million meals of beef;

• More than 3,000 tons of hypochlorite were delivered by Israel to Gaza for water purification purposes – that’s 60 billion gallons of purified water; and

• Israel brought some 4,883 tons of medical equipment and medicine into Gaza – a weight equivalent to over 360,000 260-piece mobile trauma first aid kits.

Read the full statistics and judge for yourself. Humanitarian crisis in Gaza? Not according to the facts.


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    So, no building supplies, despite regular bulldozing of homes by Israeli and Hamas forces.

    No water, despite 50% of residents of Gaza lacking access to fresh, potable water.

    And, also, this isn’t a list of “aid”; these are things imported into Gaza because Gazans paid for them, frequently at inflated prices and purchased from Israeli businesses that benefit from an enforced monopoly since Gaza’s ability to engage in agriculture and manufacturing has been destroyed by the Israeli blockade.

    It’s clear simply from the list of blockaded items that the intent of the blockade is not to prevent the assembly of rockets – which seems to stop only when Hamas decides not to fire them, not as a result of any Israeli actions – but to collectively punish the citizens of Gaza without triggering massive starvation.

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      Uh-huh.

      On May 13, Israel allowed approximately 39 tons of building material into Gaza to help rebuild a damaged hospital. The construction material for al Quds hospital was transferred after safeguards in place and French assurances ensured that the construction material would not be diverted elsewhere.

      On May 24, Israel opened the Kerem Shalom crossing to 97 trucks loaded with aid and goods, including six trucks holding 250 tons of cement and one truck loaded with five tons of iron for projects executed and operated by UNRWA.

      How are those not building supplies again? That’s just in the last month.

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        39 tons isn’t gonna build many houses, Ace. Nearly 8000 Gazans, at last count, are living without homes, due to the blockade against framing timber and cement.

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          Then perhaps you should spend more time speaking out about Hamas’ proclivity for bulldozing palestinian homes and using cement to build bunkers.

          Do you really think that without massive foreign intervention, the building materials ACTUALLY make it to the homeowners?

          Hamas doesn’t want to build homes, as proven repeatedly by their reappropriation of past building materials.

          But sure…don’t blame the terrorist organization, or the masses who voted them into office.

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      Interesting list you refer to.

      I wonder why Gaza shops are not found lacking, lists notwithstanding (damned video news reports!)

      Still, let’s get to the heart of the matter: You believe the Israelis are ‘punishing’ Gazans.

      Here is how to eliminate the problem once and for all, as outlined by the UN, the US, NATO, the Quartet and Israel:

      *Diplomatic recognition of Israel.
      *Secure borders.
      *Cessation of violence.

      Exactly which of those things is too onerous a burden for the Palestinians?

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        Hamas obeyed the terms of a cease-fire for half-a-year, as they’ve obeyed them in the past. At no point has Israel ever lifted its blockade in response. Rather, they responded with further violence against the residents of Gaza and an expansion of settlements.

        Why should the government of the Gaza Strip “cease violence” when its clear that Israel will not respond in good faith? Frankly I would be surprised if residents of Gaza can ever forgive Israelis for their campaign of oppression.

        The truth is, Hamas embarked long ago on a campaign to turn Israel’s instinct for brutal over-reaction against them among the hearts and minds of the Palestinians and the rest of the Middle East. Why do you insist on aiding Hamas, by providing excuses and justifications for Israel’s overreactions?

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          Here is how to eliminate the problem once and for all, as outlined by the UN, the US, NATO, the Quartet and Israel:

          *Diplomatic recognition of Israel.
          *Secure borders.
          *Cessation of violence.

          Exactly which of those things is too onerous a burden for the Palestinians?

          Without the silly editorializing, please answer.

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            Felt like I answered this already, but ok:

            1) I don’t think Hamas has any consulates or diplomats nor a seat at the UN, so I don’t know in what sense they could “diplomatically recognize” Israel as a nation, any more than you, personally, could bestow “diplomatic recognition” of Israel. For that matter, Israel already has diplomatic recognition, they have a seat in the UN, diplomats and consulates across the world, and so on.

            2) 95% of Gaza’s border is with Israel, which secures the border. Gaza’s border with Egypt is similarly secured by Egypt. In what sense are Gaza’s borders not “secure”, since they’re secured by Israel for their own protection?

            3) The last rocket attack was in March. How long does the violence have to have ceased before it counts as a cessation? Forever? Remember, a six-month cessation of violence wasn’t enough for Israel to lift the blockade. Are they prepared to respond in good faith? They historically have not.

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          Mr St. Giles Payne

          Surely you can’t be serious!

          Even if there were six months of no violence (which is a bald faced lie!, do you really believe that after 40 plus years of institutionalized violence, state sponsored racism and bigotry Israel would be impressed? Just last week Hamas made clear they would not recognize Israel. As for violence, they promise only a temporary treaty. As for borders, they make clear their intent to eradicate Israel (and her inhabitants) time and time again.

          I have another question for you.

          I have no issue with criticism of Israel or her policies. Where I do take issue is with the support of Hamas. Those things are not related.

          How can you support a clearly racist and bigoted entity? How can you be comfortable with the state sponsored racism, bigotry and hate that is part and parcel of the Palestinian culture? Day and day out, in their media, school cuuriculum and even from the pulpit some of the most vile and ugly hate is broadcast and taught 24/7.

          To be sure there are bigots everywhere, Israel included. That said, their is a world of difference between individual opinions versus state sponsored bigotry. I find it most curious that you seem to take no issue with the Hamas bigotry directed not only at Israelis but at Jews in general.

          You clearly and knowingly thrown your support to a more enthusiastic KKK. Hamas political and religious leaders (all paid for by the state/organization) have made clear (and have stated in their Charter) their desire to not only eliminate the State of Israel but her inhabitants as well.

          That of course begs another question. Since bigots rarely of ever focus their animus toward one group/minority, I do wonder which other group or groups you find offensive.

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            Even if there were six months of no violence (which is a bald faced lie!, do you really believe that after 40 plus years of institutionalized violence, state sponsored racism and bigotry Israel would be impressed?

            So that’s it, isn’t it? No matter what Hamas actually does, Israel is going to continue to treat the people of Gaza in the same way they’ve been doing. Oh, no, I guess that’s not entirely accurate – they could make it even worse, I suppose.

            Look, we can argue about whether or not Israel is justified. Rocket attacks suck, but I’m not familiar with the moral principle that two wrongs make a right. The question is – does Israel’s conduct make Israel safer? Can you genuinely argue that indefinite oppression of Palestinians improves the likelihood that attacks from Gaza will ever cease?

            Won’t they have to cease because the Palestinians want them to cease? Does continued oppression of Palestinians want them to make nice with Israel, in your opinion?

            Has that ever worked, out of curiosity?

            Where I do take issue is with the support of Hamas.

            So stop supporting them. Stop justifying Israeli policies and actions that play to their hand. Stop weakening Israel. Stop working for Hamas.

            Nobody’s making you do that but you.

            I find it most curious that you seem to take no issue with the Hamas bigotry directed not only at Israelis but at Jews in general.

            Who says I “take no issue”? Didn’t I just tell you, I hate Hamas? Well, I do. They’re a reprehensible organization of racist criminals.

            So why are you so intent on helping them? Why bend over backwards, as you do, to strengthen them?

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    In response to Justin Payne…

    Do please remember that Gaza democratically elected a genocidal government that is in a perpetual state of war with Israel. Do please remember that the Gazans voted for war and that their government is holding an Israeli hostage. Do please remember that all of those rockets they fire are acts of war.

    The fact that Israel sends any aid at all to those who are actively seeking their destruction should, in a world which was reasonable, tell anyone that the Israelis are behaving to a superior standard than any other nation in history ever has under similar circumstances. Did the U.S. or Britain send tons of aid to the Germans in either world war? Did the Chinese aid the Japanese? Did the Russians ever aid anyone? For that matter, do the Arab nations send aid to Israel after a rocket attack or a bus explosion or another terrorist action?

    At what point in your deluded mind to consequences cease to matter? Did the Gazans not really mean it when they voted for a government that is sworn not only to fight until Israel is destroyed, but until all Jews everywhere are murdered? Do they have no responsibility for that? Do they share no blame at all for their failure to avoid war or their failure to ever once offer a viable peace deal?

    Does Hamas have no responsibility for its numerous terrorist crimes? Do they have no responsibility for the call to destroy Israel? Do you expect that they will somehow make peace when their entire stated aim is war? What exactly do you want the Israelis to do?

    Ohhh… that’s obvious. You want them to die.

    The Israelis are not going away. The Israelis are fighting a war for survival, the same war that they have had to fight since their inception. The second that the Arabs actually want peace, is the second that the fighting stops. Until then, it is to their eternal credit, that despite blood curdling cries for their annihilation, they still reach out to the people of Gaza with any aid at all, let alone the massive aid they deliver.

    The problem with loony folks like you is that you imagine that this is a movie or a game. The stakes are life and death. The Israelis are trying their very best to stay alive and *not* kill Arabs if they can avoid it. If the Israelis fought this like Americans or British or even the French would – let alone the way that Arabs or Russians or Chinese would handle such things – there would be no massive aid to terrorist governments. There would be instant response to each rocket until the rockets stopped. The water and power that Israel supplies the territory would be cut off until hostages were returned. Terrorists planting bombs would not be captured. They would simply be shot – just like the U.S. does when we catch someone planting an IED.

    You are living in a hateful and delusional dream world.

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      Do please remember that Gaza democratically elected a genocidal government that is in a perpetual state of war with Israel.

      I do remember that. I’m not on the side of Hamas; clearly they don’t serve the people of the Gaza Strip particularly well.

      Why is it, though, that you made absolutely no effort to wonder why they were so overwhelmingly elected? Or is it just that you think every Palestinian – especially the children under 15, who represent a whopping 40 percent of the population – is born a terrorist?

      What exactly do you want the Israelis to do?

      I hate Hamas, so what I want is for Israel to stop playing into their hands. Hamas has embarked on a battle plan of turning Israel’s reflexive, senseless brutal oppression against them on the world stage.

      Why is Israel playing into Hamas’ hands? Why are you helping them do so?

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        “Hamas has embarked on a battle plan of turning Israel’s reflexive, senseless brutal oppression against them on the world stage.”

        Obtuse. Hamas is not a response to Israel. Hamas exists to hate Israel, who is forced to respond. As long as you continue to excuse the provocateur, you will continue to fully misunderstand the situation.

        Hamas will always find an excuse to seek Israel’s destruction. Therefore, your energy is better spent exhorting the world to require Hamas to cease working towards Israel’s end.

        Brutal oppression…give me a break. There is brutal oppre3ssion in Sudan. In Somalia. In Burma.

        In Gaza, there is self-inflicted, albeit well-fed boredom. A great many nations would love to be similarly “oppressed”. You’re dangerously close to falling into Monty Python territory here…help…i’m being repressed…

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          Hamas is not a response to Israel.

          How do you figure that? Israel is approximately three times as old as Hamas. According to the Wikipedia entry, Hamas was created to administrate an uprising during the “First Intifada”, which was an attack on Israel inside the Palestinan Territories.

          Clearly, Hamas was created as a response to Israel. But that’s not what I asked you. What I asked you is, why did they so overwhelmingly win the election?

          Because everyone in Palestine is a terrorist? That makes no sense at all, but if you’re <a href="determined to see it that way, then I guess that justifies any treatment of Palestinians by Israel, up to and including utter destruction of every man, woman, and child in the Gaza Strip and its recolonization by Israelis. Right?

          Hamas will always find an excuse to seek Israel’s destruction.

          Well, obviously. So why are you trying so hard to help them? Why is Israel determined to do so much to help Hamas destroy them?

          Why are you on the side of Hamas, Ace? You some kind of anti-semite?

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            Refreshing to see comments by someone that seems to be pro palestinian and not just anti Israel.

            Unfortunately that doesn’t make you right.

            Hamas’s power is a direct result of Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza. Always popular and not restricted by the need to politically deliver, their anti-semitic genocidal retoric appeals to a Palestinian population that has been brainwashed for 2 generations to hate all Jews.

            After the withdrawal, Hamas claimed, and was popularly credited with, winning the battle against Israel and forcing the IDF and the settlers out. As usual in this region, gestures that are made with a western mindset lead to different conclusions being reached by those who live there. This hugely strenthened Hamas’s popularity and convinced many Palestinians that they could beat Israel militarily.

            Now we have a situation where Israel has no choice. Goods cannot be allowed in unchecked. We know of at least two ships that were intercepted with weapons on board. Rebuilding material is known to have been commandeered by Hamas to build weapons.

            As is almost always the case when any kind of sanctions are applied to a regime, the ‘ruling class’ are the last to suffer.

            While I agree that many of Israel’s actions are counterproductive and play into Hamas’s hands, I have yet to hear a viable alternative that ensures Israel’s security.

            In the meantime while we wait for the solution to present itself, the Israeli people know that, contrary to the new and more and more prevelant narrative, that they are behaving in a morally upstanding way. Providing succour and aid to enemies commited to their destruction.

            After years of lies and propoganda being eagerly believed and dissemenated by the MSM, the only opinion that matters to most Israelis is their own.

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    Interesting list you refer to.

    I wonder why Gaza shops are not found lacking, lists notwithstanding (damned video news reports!)

    Still, let’s get to the heart of the matter: You believe the Israelis are ‘punishing’ Gazans.

    Here is how to eliminate the problem once and for all, as outlined by the UN, the US, NATO, the Quartet and Israel:

    *Diplomatic recognition of Israel.
    *Secure borders.
    *Cessation of violence.

    Exactly which of those things is too onerous a burden for the Palestinians?

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    All of the bloodshed and violence in the Middle East has one simple primary root cause: Islamic fundamentalist genocidal predilections. Muslims slaughter each other by the hundreds of thousands every decade. Muslims kill in the name of Allah on every continent every year. And then some fool tries to offset that argument by invoking the totally wrong crusades of millennium past. The notion that Islamic terrorists fight to right the wrongs done to fellow Muslim Palestinians is a rube premise. Islamic fundamentalist terrorists want to annihilate Israel for the best reason they can come up with. If it were not the Palestinian cause, it would be something else. They see murder and violence as the ultimate expression of their religious fervor. Reading American liberals defend these maniacal killer cavemen is like enduring some idiot telling a really tasteless joke.

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    “Massive,” used int he headline, is, of course, relative. In relation to the actual need, this long, self-serving list is actually quite puny.

    I’d expect much from from True/Slant than simply regurgitating a press release from a pro-Israel, far-right organization. After reading so many challenging, intelligent posts from Taibbi and Friedersdorf, this is extremely disappointing.

    Israel is guilty of a cruel, and at times, bloodthirsty, oppression. Tossing a few goodies to nearly two million starving people amounts to very, very little.

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      Oh, give me a break. You haven’t refuted ONE fact in this article; all you’re doing is whining about it. Go ahead and bring some facts of your own if you’re so convinced this is simply “propaganda.” Go ahead, refute it. Prove it wrong.

      Unfortunately, you’re not going to be able to do that, because facts are awfully stubborn things.

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      Clearly, you had a skewed idea of what ‘cruel, blood thirsty and oppressive means.

      Might I suggest you come to grips with real tragedy- Sudan, Somalia, Congo, Sierra Leonne, Mauritania, East Timor and Zimbabwe immediately come to mind. These tragedies are far greater than the occupation of Gaza- the most benign military occupation in history- and yet for some reason it is Israel that merits your attention despite the millions of deaths in the places I just mentioned.

      I wonder why that is.

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        “Why that is?” Because, unlike the Sudan, the Congo, Sierra Leonne, or any of those other countries – Israel is the only nation where the United States funds the oppression with billions of dollars of military aid every year.

        That merits some attention, I think.

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          Mr Payne:

          What does Israeli aid have to do with the Sudan, the Congo, Sierra Leonne, et al? It isn’t as if Israeli are committing the atrocities!

          Why is it you seem not to care a whit about what goes on in Africa? Are millions of black Africans not worthy of your attention or care? And why are so many black Africans willing to risk their lives trying to get to Israel?

          I think I see a pattern here, Mr Payne.

          You disapprove of the Israelis, apologize for Hamas and care not a damn for black Africans.

          I think you answered my earlier question.

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      And speaking of blatant, crude propaganda … “cruel, bloodthirsty oppression?” “Starving people?”

      Here’s another fact for you: nobody is starving in Gaza. And even the Washington Post, hardly a pro-Israel propaganda outlet, acknowledges this: In Gaza, a complex, dysfunctional way of life.

      Once an exporter of fruits and other goods, Gaza has been turned into a mini-welfare state with a broken economy where food and daily goods are plentiful, but where 80 percent of the population depends on charity. Hospitals, schools, electricity systems and sewage treatment facilities are all in deep disrepair.

      Yet if you walk down Gaza City’s main thoroughfare — Salah al-Din Street — grocery stores are stocked wall-to-wall with everything from fresh Israeli yogurts and hummus to Cocoa Puffs smuggled in from Egypt. Pharmacies look as well-supplied as a typical Rite Aid in the United States.

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        Gaza was a net exporter of food when the Israelis managed greenhouses and other growing operations which employed thousands of Gazans.

        These operations were bought and paid for prior to the Israeli withdrawal in anticipation of Gaza using those operations as as a ’starter seed’ for an independent Gaza economy.

        Needless to say, those productive greenhouses and growing operations were rendered useless in less than 30 days after the Palestinians were given the keys and thousands of jobs were lost.

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          The Israeli embargo prevents the importation of seeds and the exportation of produce.

          Do you think, just maybe, that might have something to do with the failure of Gaza’s agribusiness? Or are we just supposed to assume that Palestinians are shiftless welfare queens who can’t hold down a job?

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            The Gaza agricultural infrastructure imploded long before the blockade. As I noted- and you ignored- Gazans destroyed their nascent agri business within days of the Israeli withdrawal.

            Don’t blame Palestinian failure and dysfunction on the Israelis. That is purely homegrown.

            In some Islamic societies and cultures where violence is often seen after religious services (unique in the Abrahamic faiths), little emphasis is placed on self improvement, the betterment of society (the ‘real jihad,’ we are told) or humility. Rather, worshipers are whipped into a murderous frenzy directed at non members. Each week, the hate is elevated.

            And these are the people you want to empower and give credibility.

            The Aryan Nations folks would love you.

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            In some Islamic societies and cultures where violence is often seen after religious services (unique in the Abrahamic faiths), little emphasis is placed on self improvement, the betterment of society (the ‘real jihad,’ we are told) or humility. Rather, worshipers are whipped into a murderous frenzy directed at non members. Each week, the hate is elevated.

            Funny, but I think I heard that from someone in the Aryan Nations, once. I love how you call me the bigot, but all that comes out of your mouth is a torrent of anti-Muslim hatred.

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          Sadly true.

          Israels’ beautiful, lush, modern greenhouses were once considered a marvel of the modern industrialized world. They produced some of the finest fresh produce and cut flowers in the entire Middle East, if not the finest.

          Within mere hours of the Israeli withdrawal, the greenhouses were destroyed. The digging of tunnels to move weapons and terrorists in and out of Israel under cover and away from public scrutiny was well under way, within 48 hours.

          The idea that they might actually use the greenhouses to improve their economy, feed their citizens and train their children for a better quality of life was never even brought to the table.

          The acquisition of those hi-tech greenhouses offered the Gazans a rare and valuable opportunity to significantly improve their quality of life and build a rich economy. If the Gazans had invested time and money to train their youth to maintain those greenhouses and continue production – instead of handing them guns and suicide bombs to perpetuate the endess cyce of violence, bigotry and hatred – the Palestinian economy would be thriving today.

          Their potential tourism industry has been destroyed in a similar manner. Palestine has some of the most beautiful seafront real estate in the Middle East. Do Palestinians train their children in the hospitality industry, invest time and money to build the tourism industry, and take full advantage of their natural resources to grow their economy and rebuild their infastructure?

          Of course not. They use their beautiful beaches to launch floating explosives at Israel, instead.

          Their generational hatred for what they consider to be the descendents of the “illegitimate firstborn” son of Abraham – and their lust for Israels’ total annihilation – is deeply rooted and all-consuming. This is absolutely their stated goal, and they’ll stop at nothing to accomplish it.

          There is no hope for the current generation of Palestinians born and raised into hatred, and there will be no hope for future generations until they break the cycle of hatred and start teaching their children peace.

          Whatever miseries they suffer, they bring onto themselves… the Palestinians are a festering sore on the back of the entire region and I have no sympathy or pity for them whatsoever.

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        40 percent of the population of Gaza is under the age of 15.

        Does that sound normal to you? Does that sound like a healthy population? In order to find a population structure like that you’d have to go to, hrm, let’s see: Sudan, the Congo, Sierra Leonne, or a dozen other nations in the throes of a massive humanitarian crisis.

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      Anyone who clams that Gazans are starving has self-identified as unfit for a rational discussion of this topic.

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    Mr Payne-

    As soon as Hamas recognizes Israel’s right to exist, renounce violence, calls to genocide and expresses a clear desire for a real and comprehensive peace treaty, I will gladly change my tune.

    Until then, dealing with Hamas is like dealing and negotiating with an unrepentant KKK on steroids.

    While that is clearly acceptable to you, I and many others find the idea most distasteful and ugly.

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      As soon as Hamas recognizes Israel’s right to exist, renounce violence, calls to genocide and expresses a clear desire for a real and comprehensive peace treaty, I will gladly change my tune.

      I asked you a simple question, Hamas-lover, and you’ve failed to answer it. Do you think Israel’s actions make that more or less likely?

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        I’m the Hamas lover? You DO have a sense of humor!

        Here’s a bit of reality, to answer your question: It matters little what Israel does. Hamas stated aims have little to do with Israel’s actions or policies. Removing the blockade will only serve to facilitate Hamas promised genocide. In fact, the only thing the Israelis can do to placate Hamas would be to arm Hamas, pay for the weapons and ammunition and then line up to be shot. To believe otherwise is absurd.

        Asking Israel to accede to Hamas demands pretty much indicates who the real Hamas lover is. Would you suggest Blacks go along with KKK demands?

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          I’m the Hamas lover?

          Yes. You’re the one providing cover for Israeli actions that only strengthen Hamas.

          Removing the blockade will only serve to facilitate Hamas promised genocide.

          Hamas has literally zero capacity to effect a “genocide”, embargo or no. Their last rocket attack killed literally one person – who wasn’t even Israeli. The idea that, militarily, they’re an existential threat to the Middle East’s sole nuclear power with all the force of the United States behind them is an absurdity.

          Israel isn’t David, they’re Goliath. Hamas’ strategy is to use Israel’s instinct for belligerent military over-reaction against them. When you make excuses for that over-reaction, you only strengthen the hand of Hamas. And nobody’s making you do that but you, Hamas-lover.

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            Hamas has zero effect to commit genocide? Tell that to victims of Hamas terror and their families. Tell that to the average Israeli who has heard that Hamas ‘Promises to finish what Hitler started’. Tell that to civilized people everywhere when they hear the favorite Hamas kindergarten ditty ‘Hamas! Hamas! Jews to the gas!

            Tell that to the Israelis who are bombarded day and night with vicious and vile racism, bigotry and hate (none of which seems to bother you in the least. Real surprise there) in Palestinian media. Tell that to a civilized world that who sees racist and bigoted school curricula and who hears more vile racism preached from pulpits.

            To your way of thinking, American blacks ought to just leave or allow themselves to be victims of the KKK, because objecting to their ugliness only empowers the KKK.

            I understand where you come from. You are a bigot and work very hard at legitimizing your bigotry.

            I am most qualified to say that based on your writing it is clear you are attempting to displace your own bigotry on me. Of course, I cannot diagnose you from afar. After all, we have not met so I won’t even hazard a guess as to what your deeper issues might be. That said, I do have a pretty good idea. As far as bigots you are pretty much of the garden variety, albeit with better typing skills.

            So, besides ‘Israelis’ (I’ll humor you for a while longer, I do find you amusing) what other group or minority do you take issue with?

            The question is fair- bigots never have only a single group they object to.

            (Feel free to start displacing or attempt to label me in the same way I labeled you. That is pretty standard fare- and no one can say you aren’t common.)

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            Tell that to victims of Hamas terror and their families.

            Terror isn’t genocide. One rocket every couple of months isn’t a genocide. A few acts of murder are not genocide. Those acts are reprehensible, criminal acts – but they’re not genocide, and they don’t justify brutal oppression excused by claims of existential threat.

            Tell that to the average Israeli who has heard that Hamas ‘Promises to finish what Hitler started’.

            But, of course, who do they hear that from? Why, from Hamas-enablers like yourself.

            Tell that to the Israelis who are bombarded day and night with vicious and vile racism, bigotry and hate (none of which seems to bother you in the least. Real surprise there) in Palestinian media.

            How can Palestine have any “media” when they don’t even have electricity? Remember – newspapers are on the Israeli embargo list, too. (Huh, never knew rockets were made from newspapers and cinnamon.)

            After all, we have not met so I won’t even hazard a guess as to what your deeper issues might be.

            The only issues I have are with bullies who pick on the defenseless, and clearly Israel is the Middle East’s biggest bully. But Hamas might be the second-biggest, which is why it’s so disgusting to see you enable them. How about you stop, maybe?

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    Charlie, what say you about the 27 people who died while awaiting permits to travel thru blockade for medical treatment? Or the ridiculous and arbitrary list of permissables – cinnamon ok but not nutmeg? Is that a Kosher issue?

    Beyond that, despite the numbers, Isreal did not miss the opportunity to miss an opportunity. They could have legitimized their stance by not going all Rambo on the boats. Have the not heard of naval escort tactics? Maybe a shot across the bow? Do they even watch Whale Wars to get tips on non lethal intervention- instead of 4 shots to the head one to the chest kill tactics to 19 yr olds? They aren’t trained enough in Krav Maga for simple pipe disarms? Jeez I learned that in yellow belt kenpo.

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      More bullshit.

      Thousands of Palestinians receive treatment in Israel every month.

      As for those pesky videos, deal.

      If a 19 year old got shot in the head it was because he was getting up front and personal with an Israeli.

      As for shots across the bow, Israel tried for weeks to negotiate a cargo inspection. They were refused.

      (see pesky videos again)

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      By the way, the kosher reference is quite telling- though I’m quite sure that

      a) you are Jewish
      b) one of your parents is Jewish.
      c) some of your best friends are Jewish
      d) your grandparents died in the Holocaust
      e) your grandparents survived the Holocaust
      f) some other reference to Jews.

      You must be friends with Mr Payne.

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      Sir,

      Apparently I need to speak to my wife, I haven’t seen nutmeg in our house in , heck, must be at least 6 months…didn’t realize that I was being “brutally oppressed.”

      Obviously as well, you need to be the one doing the training for the Tzahal. Why don’t you take a small combat team of say, one (yourself that is) into Gaza City, and you can demonstrate your superior close combat techniques by live remote link to the CIC for Tzahal.

      I am sure they will have no difficulty with dropping you off, or with picking up whatever remains for Kosher burial.

      Kol Hakovod

      Michael W

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    The absurdity, the myopia, the sheer “jack-ass” stubborness of the tainted left in not looking at continued facts, documented, “concrete”(pardon the pun) facts on the ground, is truly amazing. I had thought several months ago I was rather jaded by the left, in all their multi-cultural, communal benevolence. I felt that I would never be suprised by the inane, hypocritical, surreal diatribes which seem to make up the majority of liberal commentary. Wow, please allow me to eat my own words, with gusto…and hummus.

    I haven’t decided if it is just a learning impairment or if the left has pathological tunnel vision, and in all honesty…do we really need to know?

    Photos of Gaza markets exploding with fresh procue, fruit, vegetables and the like defy the logic of the position of the left. Reading through the online menu for “the Roots Club”, a restaurant in Gaza which caters to political elite and curiously enough UN beaurocrats tells me that someone is eating well in Gaza.

    A story I heard several months ago:
    “An elderly couple was visitng the zoo. As they walked past the Lion’s Den, the husband tried to get a close-up picture of the lion. In doing so the Lion was able to get its mouth on the man and proceeded to drag him into the cage.

    Several members of a visiting Israeli motorcycle club, wearing their club jackets were also in attendance at the zoo.

    On hearing the screams from the Lion’s cage they ran over. On seeing the situation, all three promptly dove at the lion through the bars. With two members punching and gouging at theeyes of the incensed lion, the leader of the group thrust both hands inside the lion’s jaws, prying them open and freeing the elderly man, who apart from a few minor wounds, was none the less for wear.

    It so happened that a writer for the New York Times was also visiting the zoo that day. On witnessing the events unfold , he approached the bikers. ” I have to tell you”, he cried out with amazement,”I have seen a lot of things in my reporting career, but that is without a doubt the most heroic thing I have ever seen any group of individuals do…ever!!!”

    The bikers responded that it was the right thing to do and that they would gladly and willingly do it again.

    As the reporter started taking down names, he noticed their jackets emblazened with the club’s insignia. On pointing it out to the leader of the group, he indicated that they were a visitng motorcycle club.

    On commenting that they spoke with an accent he did not recognize, the group pointed out that they were from Israel.

    “Oh really” he responded.”I want to let you know that this story is not going to ignored by the media..I am going to make sure it makes the front page of the New York Times tomorrow”, he added with an encouraging smile.

    He finished getting details and left the zoo. the next morning at the hotel, the leader rand down to the hotel gift shop to buy a morning paper. The reporter did not lie. There was the reporter’s name under the headline story in big bold letters:

    “ISRAELI MOTORCYCLE GANG ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT, STEALS LUNCH”

    Facts are only the facts if they are seen through objective eyes.

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