Comments on: Should Only ‘Real Journalists’ Report Dangerous Foreign Stories? Define ‘Journalist’ http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/ [Please go to 'Settings' to change your Tagline] Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:57:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Caitlin Kelly http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-893 Caitlin Kelly Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:20:44 +0000 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/?p=1981#comment-893 All fair points. Michael, believe me I know this -- as someone who tooted around (safe) Western Europe on my own dime when I was 20 for 4 months, producing 10 stories freelance in that time. But it's sleazy for news org's to cheap out on young uns' ambition if the reporting really is dangerous. You want firsthand news badly enough? Pay for it to get gathered safely. NO story is worth your life. All fair points.

Michael, believe me I know this — as someone who tooted around (safe) Western Europe on my own dime when I was 20 for 4 months, producing 10 stories freelance in that time.

But it’s sleazy for news org’s to cheap out on young uns’ ambition if the reporting really is dangerous. You want firsthand news badly enough? Pay for it to get gathered safely. NO story is worth your life.

]]> By: Mathew Hennessy http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-892 Mathew Hennessy Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:04:40 +0000 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/?p=1981#comment-892 Michael Totten. Michael Yon. They're both kinda putting the lie to "the blogosphere doesn't gather news, only rebroadcast it", and they're less the exception proving the rule these days.. That said, at any scale, the one thing you need to have to do _anything_ in hostile places is to Be Prepared.. (IIRC Yon has gotten $ from traditional outlets after self-financing his first tour or two of Iraq/Afghanistan..) Michael Totten.
Michael Yon.

They’re both kinda putting the lie to “the blogosphere doesn’t gather news, only rebroadcast it”, and they’re less the exception proving the rule these days..

That said, at any scale, the one thing you need to have to do _anything_ in hostile places is to Be Prepared..

(IIRC Yon has gotten $ from traditional outlets after self-financing his first tour or two of Iraq/Afghanistan..)

]]> By: Rick in VA http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-891 Rick in VA Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:51:17 +0000 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/?p=1981#comment-891 we need, i think look at the root words here. how is a journal different from a log? where do lines start to be drawn. are newspaper reporters substantially different from television reporters. some say they are. should we have different terms for them? why, if one writes for one business model, should one be treated differently than another writing for a different business model? we need, i think look at the root words here. how is a journal different from a log? where do lines start to be drawn. are newspaper reporters substantially different from television reporters. some say they are. should we have different terms for them? why, if one writes for one business model, should one be treated differently than another writing for a different business model?

]]> By: Michael Hastings http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-890 Michael Hastings Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:59:13 +0000 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/?p=1981#comment-890 Part of the issue nowadays is that it's very difficult for young journalists to get major media outlets to send them overseas. A lot of editors will even say: 'Well, we won't send you, but if you pay your way over there, we'll give you work." So I don't think it's fair to say, oh, she didn't have the credentials--you don't get the creds unless you go, and if you're waiting around for the Times or the WaPo or whoever else to send you, you might be waiting for a long time... Part of the issue nowadays is that it’s very difficult for young journalists to get major media outlets to send them overseas. A lot of editors will even say: ‘Well, we won’t send you, but if you pay your way over there, we’ll give you work.” So I don’t think it’s fair to say, oh, she didn’t have the credentials–you don’t get the creds unless you go, and if you’re waiting around for the Times or the WaPo or whoever else to send you, you might be waiting for a long time…

]]> By: libtree09 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/2009/12/02/should-only-real-journalists-report-dangerous-foreign-stories-define-journalist/comment-page-1/#comment-889 libtree09 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:53:26 +0000 http://trueslant.com/caitlinkelly/?p=1981#comment-889 Foolishness is tempered by experience: Is there anyway to stop stringers? Experienced or not. Foolishness is tempered by experience: Is there anyway to stop stringers? Experienced or not.

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