Comments on: Michelle Malkin enraged at mere Arab winning Miss America

By: cphocker

cphocker — Thu, 20 May 2010 16:44:02 +0000

I was referring to some commentators, not the author, btw.

By: cphocker

cphocker — Thu, 20 May 2010 16:38:56 +0000

Unsubscribing from this thread now. Y’all need to take your meds and get some new hobbies.

By: Birth control still restricted by various deranged religious groups - Barrett Brown - The Great Pundit Hunt - True/Slant

Thu, 20 May 2010 16:33:04 +0000

[...] long as we are on the subject of birth control, which I suppose we are, let us discuss what it is exactly that birth control entails and what it [...]

By: lgwalt2002

lgwalt2002 — Thu, 20 May 2010 14:56:25 +0000

“Now, I’m afraid I do not have any more time to dedicate to debating you on this subject, so of course you may declare victory by virtue of argumentative longevity.”

It would have been far wiser had you confined yourself to this remark. But as it stands, you simply dug yourself in deeper, especially when you claimed that your definition was “common usage.” It is not, you know it, and everyone reading this knows it.

By: Barrett Brown

Barrett Brown — Thu, 20 May 2010 14:53:38 +0000

And as I have pointed out, I am using the definition from dictionaries and common usage, indicating a substance that is controlled – and in much the same way as are other substances deemed to be “controlled substances” by that same government insomuch as that there is an overlapping of controls of place on many birth control products and substances that the U.S. government defines as being controlled. Again, calling birth control a controlled substance is not more comparable to calling milk or water a controlled substance than it is to call various other prescription medications a controlled substances, as birth control shares more relevant fundamental attributes in common with the latter than with the former – for instance, your “regulated by the government” comparison is much broader than my specific “regulated by the government in such a way as to require prescriptions” and “being a drug” and “having been approached in a legally adversarial manner for much of the past” comparisons that apply to both birth control and those things which the government currently categorizes under controlled substances. As such, calling birth control a “controlled substance” is not very much akin to calling milk a “controlled substance,” as you would like to claim, whereas it is very much akin to calling any other prescription drug that has been controlled to various levels due to moral qualms a “controlled substance,” and thus your comparison to milk and water and such nonsense is merely an attempt to distract from the much closer shared characteristics held by birth control and government-designated controlled substances and to pretend such similarities away.

Again, for clarity, I understand your argument; you are trying to say that, if birth control is a controlled substance, then milk must be, too. What I am saying is that there much narrower definitions that apply to birth control that do not come anywhere near to applying to milk, which is to say that your assertion is clearly not the case.

Now, I’m afraid I do not have any more time to dedicate to debating you on this subject, so of course you may declare victory by virtue of argumentative longevity.

By: lgwalt2002

lgwalt2002 — Thu, 20 May 2010 10:03:57 +0000

You are still incorrect. As I’ve pointed out, by your definition a “controlled substance” could be gasoline, milk, even water, because all of those “substances” are in some way regulated by the government.

But nobody refers to those fluids as “controlled substances.” You are simply, utterly, and absolutely incorrect, as has been amply documented here.

By: Barrett Brown

Barrett Brown — Thu, 20 May 2010 06:23:23 +0000

No, I agree with you that Donald Trump prefers pretty women to Muslims, but our view is not shared by those who wish not to share it.

By: Barrett Brown

Barrett Brown — Thu, 20 May 2010 06:20:47 +0000

I am not incorrect about the meaning of “controlled substance.” You have pointed to the definition currently used by a branch of the U.S. federal government; I am using the definition from dictionaries and common usage, indicating a substance that is controlled – and in much the same way as are other substances deemed to be “controlled substances” by that same government insomuch as that there is an overlapping of controls of place on many birth control products and substances that the U.S. government defines as being controlled. I know that this will not change your mind but I am noting it because there have been several comments along these same lines from other readers whom I assume to be here to conduct Lizard Civil War against the Charles Johnson faction. I’ll tell you something that will anger you further – Johnson has spent a portion of the last year accusing a guy who wrote for a white supremacist publication of being a white supremacist. Go get him! He went that way!

By: lgwalt2002

lgwalt2002 — Wed, 19 May 2010 21:38:11 +0000

“You’ve lost your damn mind, man. Seek help; we have science and medicine to cure people these days.”

This is the root of your problem. While you are full of contempt for Christianity, you are completely unaware that there are insurmountable problems with your own epistemology – specifically the fact/value distinction, among other things.

By: Desargues

Desargues — Wed, 19 May 2010 20:45:57 +0000

You’ve lost your damn mind, man. Seek help; we have science and medicine to cure people these days.