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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>timb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you for helping me make my point.  If rocketman ever returns from Collins&#039;s site, maybe he will see how funny it is to so easily elicit hagiography from a tool.  

There are third world priests who hold Christ in lower opinions than happyfeet does godlstein. At least the priests&#039;s love is requited...allegedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you for helping me make my point.  If rocketman ever returns from Collins&#8217;s site, maybe he will see how funny it is to so easily elicit hagiography from a tool.  </p>
<p>There are third world priests who hold Christ in lower opinions than happyfeet does godlstein. At least the priests&#8217;s love is requited&#8230;allegedly.</p>
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		<title>By: happyfeet</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>happyfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Goldstein is the best one.</description>
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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>timb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, rocketman, I was hoping for your approval.  I am crushed, but I am happy to note that I wrote Obama&#039;s second autobiography and once the Protein Wisdom crowd finds out....well, talking about a hornet&#039;s nest.

As far as, mr. Goldstein is concerned, I loathe the chattering choir at Protein Wisdom and, in the comments above, I expressed my disdain for the site &lt;i&gt;inter alia&lt;/i&gt; not for mr. Goldstein.  

But, after seeing happyfeet&#039;s inept and inarticulate defense of allowing racist hate posts on the site, I decided to one up the little guy. You see, he has a serious mancrush on mr. Goldstein, so I like to hit him where it might hurt.  He claims otherwise, but the first time he says something true will be...well, the first time.

If that offends you, well, such is the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, rocketman, I was hoping for your approval.  I am crushed, but I am happy to note that I wrote Obama&#8217;s second autobiography and once the Protein Wisdom crowd finds out&#8230;.well, talking about a hornet&#8217;s nest.</p>
<p>As far as, mr. Goldstein is concerned, I loathe the chattering choir at Protein Wisdom and, in the comments above, I expressed my disdain for the site <i>inter alia</i> not for mr. Goldstein.  </p>
<p>But, after seeing happyfeet&#8217;s inept and inarticulate defense of allowing racist hate posts on the site, I decided to one up the little guy. You see, he has a serious mancrush on mr. Goldstein, so I like to hit him where it might hurt.  He claims otherwise, but the first time he says something true will be&#8230;well, the first time.</p>
<p>If that offends you, well, such is the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: rocketman</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>rocketman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timb,

I don&#039;t understand why you have to ceaselessly travel the internet in search of an opportunity to grind the axe you have for Jeff Goldstein.  I&#039;ve seen you do so in the threads at other blogs regardless of whether he was central to the topic at hand.  It seems a little pathetic to me...

And Barrett, obviously you chose comments to cite that support your thesis, and I appreciate the candor with which you admit, in a most banal fashion, that you purposely said provacative things.  But what I fail to see is why the effects of being a provacateur are so surprising to anyone, let alone such an astute and erudite person as yourself.

I will say though that it is a low blow to deride the PW commentariat for introducing or adhering to specious arguments.  Especially so when you try and parry a commenters thrust about the videos of school children being organized to sing ballads of, and to, Obama, by drawing an equivalent to songs sung of Bush in Jesus Camp.

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792143

I asked that question in a following comment, as well as took issue with your equivalence between the Catholic church pedofile scandals and ACORN; noting that ACORN not only defrauded the very system in recieved funds from, but is also a secular political entity where the church decidedly is not.

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792173

Frankly, you essay sounds more like a person expressing shock and surprise that they were struck by the handle of a rake after stepping on it&#039;s tines.  You deliberately provoked the PW commentariat for &quot;editorial&quot; purposes, and cherry picked the resulting blow-back to shape the narrative in the fashion you desire.  That seems less like &quot;research&quot; and &quot;journalism&quot;, and more like vengeful propagandizing.

With all due respect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timb,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you have to ceaselessly travel the internet in search of an opportunity to grind the axe you have for Jeff Goldstein.  I&#8217;ve seen you do so in the threads at other blogs regardless of whether he was central to the topic at hand.  It seems a little pathetic to me&#8230;</p>
<p>And Barrett, obviously you chose comments to cite that support your thesis, and I appreciate the candor with which you admit, in a most banal fashion, that you purposely said provacative things.  But what I fail to see is why the effects of being a provacateur are so surprising to anyone, let alone such an astute and erudite person as yourself.</p>
<p>I will say though that it is a low blow to deride the PW commentariat for introducing or adhering to specious arguments.  Especially so when you try and parry a commenters thrust about the videos of school children being organized to sing ballads of, and to, Obama, by drawing an equivalent to songs sung of Bush in Jesus Camp.</p>
<p><a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792143" rel="nofollow">http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792143</a></p>
<p>I asked that question in a following comment, as well as took issue with your equivalence between the Catholic church pedofile scandals and ACORN; noting that ACORN not only defrauded the very system in recieved funds from, but is also a secular political entity where the church decidedly is not.</p>
<p><a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792173" rel="nofollow">http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15364#comment-792173</a></p>
<p>Frankly, you essay sounds more like a person expressing shock and surprise that they were struck by the handle of a rake after stepping on it&#8217;s tines.  You deliberately provoked the PW commentariat for &#8220;editorial&#8221; purposes, and cherry picked the resulting blow-back to shape the narrative in the fashion you desire.  That seems less like &#8220;research&#8221; and &#8220;journalism&#8221;, and more like vengeful propagandizing.</p>
<p>With all due respect</p>
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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>timb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why does one try?  When he slaps you down, just know I&#039;ll be laughin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why does one try?  When he slaps you down, just know I&#8217;ll be laughin</p>
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		<title>By: happyfeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have reported your abusive comments, mister timb. That&#039;s not an appropriate way to speak about people just cause they don&#039;t hold to your dirty socialist philosophies, and Jeff is all good. If he&#039;s on the outs with this person or that person, he rises about the shallow vitriolic bitterness what you express towards him I think.

motes and beams, mister.

motes and beams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reported your abusive comments, mister timb. That&#8217;s not an appropriate way to speak about people just cause they don&#8217;t hold to your dirty socialist philosophies, and Jeff is all good. If he&#8217;s on the outs with this person or that person, he rises about the shallow vitriolic bitterness what you express towards him I think.</p>
<p>motes and beams, mister.</p>
<p>motes and beams.</p>
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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>timb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>put my name on the end of any &quot;dead thread&quot; and see how fast the cavalry arrives.  Don&#039;t let your weird love of Godlstein get in the way of enlightenment, Happyfeet. Look what he did to Dan, to Dan&#039;s brother, to SEK, to Patterico, to innumerable others.  You kid yourself if you think he wouldn&#039;t do it to you. That&#039;s what a personality disorder is.

By the way, if Michelle Obama is a failure, because all she did was nothing with her fancy degree, what degree of success do you assign your idol?  He can&#039;t teach and can&#039;t hold a job.  He can&#039;t even maintain a blog or write a book.  Surely, Mrs. Obama is more successful than the house husband is, right?

.....awaiting response which shows how blinkered and partisan and one other word, your worldview is.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>put my name on the end of any &#8220;dead thread&#8221; and see how fast the cavalry arrives.  Don&#8217;t let your weird love of Godlstein get in the way of enlightenment, Happyfeet. Look what he did to Dan, to Dan&#8217;s brother, to SEK, to Patterico, to innumerable others.  You kid yourself if you think he wouldn&#8217;t do it to you. That&#8217;s what a personality disorder is.</p>
<p>By the way, if Michelle Obama is a failure, because all she did was nothing with her fancy degree, what degree of success do you assign your idol?  He can&#8217;t teach and can&#8217;t hold a job.  He can&#8217;t even maintain a blog or write a book.  Surely, Mrs. Obama is more successful than the house husband is, right?</p>
<p>&#8230;..awaiting response which shows how blinkered and partisan and one other word, your worldview is&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: happyfeet</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>happyfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s so wrong, timb. That sk person is not a regular PW commenter. He&#039;s just some kookoobrain racist what left a racist little comment on a dead thread and nobody noticed it.

You are not elevating the discourse, mister. I&#039;m sorry people attack you but maybe we can think of some things what you can do on your side to make people not have attacky feelings towards you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s so wrong, timb. That sk person is not a regular PW commenter. He&#8217;s just some kookoobrain racist what left a racist little comment on a dead thread and nobody noticed it.</p>
<p>You are not elevating the discourse, mister. I&#8217;m sorry people attack you but maybe we can think of some things what you can do on your side to make people not have attacky feelings towards you.</p>
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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://trueslant.com/barrettbrown/2009/10/04/protein-wisdom-and-the-radness-of-crowds/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>timb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barrent, I forgot to note in my previous comment (re: evil) a comment on this thread http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15283

Comment # 280 is a vociferous shout out to racism and white purity.  Whereas, you get shouted down whenever you post and I was shouted down whenever I posted (including the few times I agreed with them), sk can post a racist rant and receive the silence of a sleeping baby.

My opinion, arrived at after several profane and silly commenters attacked me at other blogs, is that Protein Wisdom is a neo-Marxist cult of personality.  Not Maarxist in goals, of course, (Ayn Rand has nothing on the clueless happyfeet, for example), but Marxist in tactics:  defense of the Leader, bunker mentality, and (this is the most important part) EVERYTHING is political.  These people have no other interests, save politics.  They feign interest in the Leader&#039;s obsessions, but everything, from a cheeseburger order to advice Ken Jennings gave some 16 year old 20 years ago(!) is political.  

If there were than 30 of them and they were capable of any electoral power (they couldn&#039;t even stop McCain and I haven&#039;t seen Godlstein emigrate to Idaho just yet), then I&#039;d fear for my country.  But, they&#039;re just the latest iteration of Freemasonry conspiracists and Bircher fools, so, in the end, I find their brand of anger amusing.

And, like always, when the light goes on, the cockroaches are nowhere to be found.  Only Happyfeet can man up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barrent, I forgot to note in my previous comment (re: evil) a comment on this thread <a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15283" rel="nofollow">http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15283</a></p>
<p>Comment # 280 is a vociferous shout out to racism and white purity.  Whereas, you get shouted down whenever you post and I was shouted down whenever I posted (including the few times I agreed with them), sk can post a racist rant and receive the silence of a sleeping baby.</p>
<p>My opinion, arrived at after several profane and silly commenters attacked me at other blogs, is that Protein Wisdom is a neo-Marxist cult of personality.  Not Maarxist in goals, of course, (Ayn Rand has nothing on the clueless happyfeet, for example), but Marxist in tactics:  defense of the Leader, bunker mentality, and (this is the most important part) EVERYTHING is political.  These people have no other interests, save politics.  They feign interest in the Leader&#8217;s obsessions, but everything, from a cheeseburger order to advice Ken Jennings gave some 16 year old 20 years ago(!) is political.  </p>
<p>If there were than 30 of them and they were capable of any electoral power (they couldn&#8217;t even stop McCain and I haven&#8217;t seen Godlstein emigrate to Idaho just yet), then I&#8217;d fear for my country.  But, they&#8217;re just the latest iteration of Freemasonry conspiracists and Bircher fools, so, in the end, I find their brand of anger amusing.</p>
<p>And, like always, when the light goes on, the cockroaches are nowhere to be found.  Only Happyfeet can man up.</p>
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		<title>By: happyfeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The Point:&lt;/b&gt; You&#039;re ... you&#039;re awfully mean is what you are I think. PW isn&#039;t evil and Mr. Brown acknowledged as much. I piss on you head.

&lt;b&gt;Advantage:&lt;/b&gt; happyfeet, who is not inane, as opposed to timb, who may or may not be inane but who is decidedly a mean-spirited person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The Point:</b> You&#8217;re &#8230; you&#8217;re awfully mean is what you are I think. PW isn&#8217;t evil and Mr. Brown acknowledged as much. I piss on you head.</p>
<p><b>Advantage:</b> happyfeet, who is not inane, as opposed to timb, who may or may not be inane but who is decidedly a mean-spirited person.</p>
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