Obama, Rush Limbaugh and Naziism: What are America’s Nazis really saying?
With all the talk by Rush Limbaugh, et al., about similarities between Nazis and the Obama administration, I thought it incumbent upon someone to do a little looking into what today’s Nazi party is actually saying in America these days. Located, as I am, in Indiana — which is not only the heartland of America, but is also the home of the KKK museum — I figured it might as well be me.
Here’s something posted on the American Nazi Party’s Web site about minorities, for example. Bear in mind as you read that President Obama is black:
I find it disgusting that minorities, especially black, live in many cases, far better then whites, and fellow whites could care less. Minorities get the best jobs, not due to ability, but simply because they’re a minority. Govt and private business have quotas to fill, and if they don’t the civil rights commission comes down on them. The fact that they’re being forced to hire totally unqualified people is ignored. Any wonder our govt is screwed up, and private enterprise, unable to compete in the world marketplace.
Details, details, you say. The point here is that Nazis are National Socialists. They were all about state ownership, wealth redistribution, etc. Obama is a socialist, too, so they’re actually exactly the same in all the important ways.
Like regarding the bailout of financial institutions:
Even more horrible, is the financial bailout. Financial institutions whose own greed has brought them low, get trillions in bailout money, so they don’t need to suffer financial loss. To add insult to injury, these big shots get multi-millions of dollars in bonuses for leading companies to ruin.
Oops. The Obama Administration sort of conceived, designed and executed that bail-out, didn’t it? Oh well. Obama still wants to give handouts like free health care, mortgage relief and extended unemployment insurance to needy people (losers). And, to be fair, the Nazis are all about that:
Read here again from the ANP’s Web site. “Why,” for example, it asks:
… isn’t money being spent to help the average white homeowner heat their home in winter? Also, why isn’t more money spent to help whites with heavy medical bills? Instead this aid is constantly being cut. Above all, why are whites allowed to be malnourished, if not outright hungry? We should be buying food to help our needy, not fight Arab/Moslem people for no other reason, then [sic] because their [sic] against the Jews.
Public health care, aid to homeowners, hunger relief… sounds like Obama brand socialism to me. As long as you ignore a few glaring details about who’s eligible for said redistribution — like, say, members of Obama’s own family — it’s clear that Obama and the Nazis are birds of a feather. Golden Nazi Eagles of a feather, to be specific.
It’s enough to make you wonder why American Nazis aren’t dancing in the streets, now that they have one of their own running the show. Isn’t this wish fulfillment of the highest order?
Perhaps not. Check out this charming excerpt from White Aryan Resistance, under “News and Views.” It might as well come straight from the Obamunist Manifesto:
This long-legged nigger Obama got elected by totally playing the race card and since he’s been elected he and his (mainly Jewish) cronies have been playing the race card at every opportunity. And they deal it from the bottom of the deck.
If a White person doesn’t support or blindly follow the party line, that is to say agree with everything the ‘Messiah’ says, he/she is a ‘racist’. I fell victim to this personally last fall when the wetbacks I work with saw a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on my car. I’m lucky I wasn’t knifed or shot in the company parking lot.
I say Fuck Obama, now and forever. Obama is just a puppet of the Jews. The Jews are calling all the shots. We Whites need to form a Third Party similar to the BNP in England.
Well, at least there’s one thing Nazis and Obama can agree upon. They’re both fed up with the right wing. Again, from the ANP:
While the reactionary, right-wingers moan and complain – NATIONAL SOCIALISTS – ACT. IF you DON’T – ACT – YOUR NOT MUCH OF A NATIONAL SOCIALIST…well, ARE you?
Indeed not. Of course, one must take into consideration exactly what we mean when we say “act.” ANP elucidates in the next sentence:
Live your life as if you had to “report” each and everyday to Adolf Hitler.
Hitler? As in the father of the really real Nazi party? Oh, that guy. So what would reporting to Hitler entail? Probably telling him some stuff he wanted to hear, right? Maybe we could get a sense of what he’d want to hear by taking a look at a few things he said. Here are a few zingers.
Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice. – Adolph Hitler
I wonder what Obama’s position on humanitarianism is?
Silence and paralysis in the act of genocide is wrong. I know that if we care, the world will care…if we act then the world will follow. – Barack Obama, about the humanitarian crisis in Darfur
Oh yeah, that whole genocide thing. Well, if you want to split hairs, I guess Obama and Hitler may have held divergent veiws on that one. But speaking of genocide, how do Obama and Hitler’s views on Jews line up? Here’s how Hitler, founder of the Nazi party, felt:
The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew. – Adolph Hitler
One can only hope Obama doesn’t feel the same way. I wonder, for example, how White House staffers like Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s chief of staff, and David Axelrod, his senior advisor, both of whom are Jewish, would feel if he did?
Calling someone a Nazi is a favorite tactic of Limbaugh’s (remember “Femi-nazi?”). But drawing serious comparisons between the Obama Administration’s position on things like health care and actual Naziism as a rhetorical ploy isn’t just outrageous, it’s downright unethical. Once one takes a look at the true ugliness of the hatred espoused by real Nazis, one gets a sense of just how irresponsible a comparison Limbaugh and his ilk are making.
If the hate-mongers on the far right aren’t willing to go all the way and consider what that comparison actually means, than they ought to choose their rhetoric a bit more carefully.
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Like all instances of Goodwin’s Law, calling someone a Nazi without there being real hatred for minorities, espousal of extreme Social Darwinism that call for a master race to rule over all others, and an appetite for war and violent confrontation, only weakens your argument. Or exposes that you don’t have one.
Every time Rush Limbaugh talks about Obama behaving like a Nazi, all he’s really saying is that he can’t put together a legitimate point but really needs to bark out something negative and shocking since his listeners thrive on this kind of fiery but empty rhetoric.
If The Obama administration was anything like the Nazi Party, right wing radio hosts and Fox News pundits would be tortured and executed for treason within the first few months of its reign. What those talking heads don’t seem to understand is that a real totalitarian regime that works by edicts, doesn’t let people complain about the government, much less allow lawmakers to cast dissenting votes.
In fact, one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian regime is laws being passed or struck down with unanimous, or nearly unanimous tallies. I mean imagine a dictator having to hold town hall meetings to advance some sort of reform and receiving blistering opposition from angry activists (who may or may not be paid to protest). He’d call in the troops and detain them all for treason or conspiracy to commit treasonous acts!
Excellent piece… it’s about time someone called out that blowhard on that point.
And when you really look at what the card carrying Nazis are saying, wouldn’t that constitute genuine libel on the part of Limbaugh? I mean the guy has millions of (shudder) faithful listeners!
I can tell you this Jew is highly offended at the cavalier manner in which the term Nazi is being tossed around these days. Once again we are reminded (as if needed to be) that some people truly have no shame.
The idea that Obama or the Democrats are anything like the Nazis is utterly preposterous. It’s beyond crazy.
The main agenda of the Nazis was extreme nationalism, militarism and conquest, combined with an insane theory of “racial purity” that defined Jews, blacks, Slavs, Gypsies and others as subhumans who should be enslaved or exterminated.
But there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation about the “Socialist” aspect of National Socialism. That’s mainly because the Nazis themselves were unclear about it. At the beginning of their rise in Germany, the they made noises about nationalizing corporations and redistributing wealth but once in power, they never did. The Nazis were not a leftist party but an extreme right-wing party. They battled the real socialists and communists in the streets and after gaining power, killed them. They also outlawed the German trade unions. Who dislikes unions, the left or the right?
Relations between the Nazis and German industry can be described as cozy. The big corporations happily built Hitler’s war machine, kept making their profits and after Germany overran Europe, were provided by the state with free slave labor.
Hitler himself had little interest in economics and considered it of secondary importance. He was essentially a pragmatist on the subject who cared only that the economy hummed along so he could concentrate on his beloved war. To think of him as any kind of socialist or leftist is ridiculous.
Let’s Respect others and discussion, not shouting and disruption.
‘What’s in it’ ? or ’shouting and disruption’, which one is the reason of slow-down ?
Part 1.
The runaway premium similar to the peak fuel price last year and left so many folks in despair insists on staying the course with the attitude ‘unchanged’, clearly this trend could bankrupt individual, business, and government. Now the government subsequently is tasked with these two main assignments, first, to address premium inflation, second, to expand coverage to all in urgent need.
In order to cover all and not to add to the deficit, the public option can not set the same rates of private market, rather, it needs to have the function to keep it in check in terms of inflation, too. Unfortunately, this ‘unavoidable’ direction is aggressively being accused by the runaway premium, citing government ‘take-over’ .
Under the circumstances the energy bill to determine human future and the other major issues are presently piled up, who wants to waste time making enemies ?, which also does not benefit the forthcoming election.
On the other hand, to make things worse, critics say the savings from the proposed public option is not enough to meet the revenue goal. Furthermore, on another hand, some say ‘hands off’ . Where do these No tax, No saving and the like intend to force this reform to go ? The conclusion by ‘just-say-no’ is no doubt. Ironically, the Deficit-sensitive groups have a distinctive common ground, they all have a Deficit-driven background out of question.
Part 2.
Of all choices, the best thing would be savings through efficiency. Considering the wasteful structure, the highest premium in the world (Costing over twice as much as every other county), and the most expensive part of medicare, with the prevention / wellness program in place, an American style innovation, an ‘outcome’-based payment founded upon IT system may be enough to save more than 50 billions per year (500 / decade), both ‘improving quality’ and removing the unnecessary procedures (as pay is dependent on patient’s outcome). Young folks and advocates need to explain the notion of a pay for outcome agreement to the elderly misled by the disinformation.
Part 3.
Unlike private market, this public option includes large-scale investments, these large investments still does not get the fair score, instead seem to become a source of acute conflict, even so, this common sense-based program needs to develop further as early detection goes beyond monetary value.
In short, with the heartbreaking tears in mind (Nearly 11 Million Cancer Patients Without Health Insurance), private market also needs change and should join together to complete this reform , as promised, if not, the runaway premium only has itself to blame. Job-based coverage (indirect payment), mandate code, and ample capital might be favorable to the private market. And It can be said that fair competition starts with fair market value.
Over time, supposedly, the public plan will concentrate more on basic, primary cares, and the private insurers will provide their clients with differentiated services.
Thank You !
A healthy America is a strong America, “No patient left behind.”
Part 1.
Problems :
1. No systematic, expansive Prevention & Wellness Program.
According to the scoring of CBO on the prevention & wellness program, all fitness centers around the world should close down immediately and all media have to end
reporting health tips about prevention. Rather, all of the excellent health systems seem to have one feature in common, an expansive, systematic preventative program
requiring immense investments.
I think a prevention system works as a ‘levee’ built against flood by the government, similarly, it also needs non-profit investments from the government ‘on a large scale’.
This might offer us one clue of why all of the free states have public insurance policy in place.
Surprisingly enough, the system today is designed around treating patients once they become sick. As far as I’m concerned, the congress affected by the special interests
has turned down the budget request for prevention program in Medicare & Medicaid, which are the most expensive parts of the health program. Let’s imagine the astronomical costs and invaluable lives following the levee breach.
2. A pay for each service / volume compensation, & No E-Medical Record.
As much as 30 percent of all health-care spending in the U.S. -some $700 billion a year- may be wasted on tests and treatments that do not improve the health of the
recipients, and this 700 billion dollars a year can cover a lot of uninsured people, in return, it could lessen the tragic, prohibitive ER cares.
Medical errors ( No e-Medical Record ) & lawsuits, more profits motive, and indirect payments from employers etc would account for it.
Supposedly, ‘a pay for each service / volume’ compensation seems to leave the medical institutes unequipped with the essential IT system. To understand its importance, If
we imagine the cost difference between the previous and current system in financial institutes, the magnitude of cost-savings and the mess in health care system can
be easily explained.
3. Premium Inflation.
This last spring, due to the demand decrease, the peak fuel price came down below $40 per barrel, though, the
‘Similar’ insurance premiums keep on rising, accordingly the inaction could bankrupt family, business, and
government ‘BEYOND this recession’ , as all across the spectrum agree.
Insurance premiums have nothing to do with the law of demand & supply and the free / fair market concept.
Basically, as demand diminishes, the price tends to reflect it, nonetheless, the insurers that formed a cartel through
consolidation have replenished the loss by exercising inhumane malpractices involving denying, capping, cherry-picking, rationing, rapid
premium increase and the like. And this runaway premium ended up in the collapse of middle
class ranging ‘ from finance to mental health’ , alongside the peak fuel price and fast-growing mortgage rate, as all of
us know. Thereby they could be cited as an objective for anti-trust or anti-corruption. If the public plan sets the same rate of the insurers, it will be another headache.
Ironically, the Deficit-sensitive groups have a distinctive common ground, they all have a Deficit-driven background out of
question. Therefore, I’d say they have nothing to say about deficit unless they are free from the sponsors.
And the spoiled menu, ‘Takeover and Rationing Cliche’ is still marching for bankruptcy, as opposed to its motto.
4. ‘Work or Break’ health system with no brake or safety system.
Just like marriage, economy also undergoes up and down, however, economic downturn is not reflected in the employment-based system.
The rising mental stress or illness & ‘keep eating habit’ , which are the epicenter of a number of different diseases,might be traced
to this insecure system and exorbitant premiums.
Part 2.
The Public Plan:
1. Thankfully, the health care reform bill currently before Congress makes several key investments including more primary care doctors in preventive care, and those pieces
of the public plan must be maintained .
2. The pay for ‘Outcome’ pack is most likely to expedite the introduction of Health Care IT SYSTEM, and it will help doctors focus on their patients.
3. The ‘innovative’ idea of a ‘pay for value / outcome’ pack will allow for Quality and affordability
. If you are a physician, and your pay is dependant upon your patient’s outcome, you will most likely strive to
prescribe the best medicine earlier in the process, let alone skipping the wasteful, unnecessary risk-carrying
procedures.
Young folks and advocates need to explain the notion of a pay for outcome agreement to the elderly misled by the
disinformation.
4. The synergy effect of the combined Health Care IT & a pay for ‘outcome’ system may allow the clinicians to
‘correctly’ diagnose and effectively treat a patient earlier in the process so that it can measurably decrease the
crushing lawsuits and deter the excuse for unnecessary cares to make fortunes.
5. The creative idea of ‘a pay for outcome’ will more likely prompt team approach and decision, as at Myo clinic.
Under the ‘pay for outcome’ pack, for good reason, best practices as ‘recommendations’ would simply help them
make a better decision, and the government won’t still have to meddle in the final, actual decision-making
process as a non-expert.
6. This New ‘Payment Reform’ could accelerate the progress in medical science, in return, it will save more cash.
And this idea will be able to bring ‘competition’ to the private market, as a result, it can contribute to mitigating premium inflation.
7. Supporters of the agreement say it could save the Medicare System more than $100 billion a year and ‘improve’
care, that means more than $1trillian over next decade, and virtually needs no other resources including tax on the
wealthiest. Supposedly even the ‘conservative’ number of such savings might be able to meet the objective of revenue-neutral.
(Please visit http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=820455&catid=391 for detailed infos).
8. Through clinic’s network, users of its health-care services can keep up with their health information and information for family members, and receive health guidance and recommendations from clinic that is optimized for each person.
The system also allows patients to upload information from home-health devices such as blood glucose monitors and digital scales. Patients can authorize whether they want to share their health information with doctors or other caregivers, and those caregivers can provide health-care and general wellness recommendations based on the information patients provide.
9. In case the health care reform provides the general public with peace of mind, the rising mental stress, obesity caused by the insecure system and
exorbitant premiums may bend the curve surprisingly.
10. Clearly, the positive impacts involving massive job creation, promising stem cell research, several times more economic effects of ‘from bed to work’ lie ahead, these will lead to economic recovery.
Part 3.
Conclusion ;
1. The last thing to expect is rallying for premium inflation, JUST SAYING NO.
2. Over time, supposedly, the public plan will concentrate more on basic, primary cares, and the private insurers will provide their clients with differentiated services.
3. With the Prevention & Wellness Program as a stable levee in place, the promising pay for value/ outcome reimbursement reform based on IT system could clear the way for revenue-neutral. Some say the installation of IT network will take time, but once this new outcome-based payment system is implemented, the hospitals reluctant to adopt it will most likely rush to introduce it.
4. The final hurdle looks like a scoring issue surrounding the savings on Prevention & Wellness Program, but I’d like to say
health clubs and media reports on prevention tips must be maintained.
5. People would be entitled to various services whether you are employed, unemployed or self-employed, homeless or housed, young or old, chronically ill or mentally ill, moving from job to job or from town to town or from state to state.
Thank You !
I actually took it upon myself to read this article and some of the stuff these monsters wrote. Is there any way I can scrape that knowledge out of my brain, now?
“The average white homeowner” “I find it disgusting that minorities, especially black, live in many cases, far better then whites”
I cannot believe that these KKK types still think this way in 2010.
I think I’m going to be sick.